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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 07:05 AM
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you'd only want oil squirters if you're working with the stock cast pistons/rods. with forged pistons and rods, they get rid of heat so well, the oil squirters basically just take a few oil pressure psi.
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 95gainfla
you'd only want oil squirters if you're working with the stock cast pistons/rods. with forged pistons and rods, they get rid of heat so well, the oil squirters basically just take a few oil pressure psi.
but are still very needed,do to thay cover the rod in oil wich decends to the bearing makeing it alot safer for reving..oil squirters are on a pressure spring most people dont no that,thay are not always spraying thay dont spray doing idle only when the oil when oilpressure pushes the tinytiny valve open so it really does not lose much pressure
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 09:41 AM
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i was just going by what kevin at cms told me when i was asking about an ls/vtec build.
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 95gainfla
i was just going by what kevin at cms told me when i was asking about an ls/vtec build.
Kevin is right and knows what he's is talking about. I think KJ has a few more builds under his belt than anyone else on this board. He has been doing this since most of you kid were in middle school or even elementary!

I wouldn't run oil squirter with a forged internals motor myself. But what do I know!

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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 10:58 AM
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basically what it all boils down to is you can put all GSR internals in an LS block, and have a de-stroked LS.... Kinda pointless if you ask me... Now on the other hand, you can also put all LS internals into a GSR block, and have a poor mans stroker motor... great for making a little more torque down low
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 11:38 AM
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wouldnt it be a REAL little bit. since gsr is only 2cc's less than the ls?

1798->1800?
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 07:14 PM
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Oil squirters serve no lubrication purpose at all, they are simply there to cool cast pistons. Forged pistons dissipate heat so well it is not needed, blocking them off gives a gain in oil pressure at higher rpms where it is needed.
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 02:36 AM
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puttin the LS crank and rods in a gsr does actually work very well and is NOT the poor mans way. Honda cranks are the best, period. Its actually the best way to stroke a motor. Its exactly what gary gardela's $300,000 race team engineers did to his motor. And for the recors they actually remove the oil squiters from race motors because the oil hitting the piston actually slows it down. Makes more power and runs better at higher RPMs without them.
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Originally Posted by shook
puttin the LS crank and rods in a gsr does actually work very well and is NOT the poor mans way. Honda cranks are the best, period. Its actually the best way to stroke a motor. Its exactly what gary gardela's $300,000 race team engineers did to his motor.
I know it works well, but you are limited to just how much you can stroke a motor, AND how much power you can make... The Honda crank can hold a LOT of power, but as with everything else, it has its limitations

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And for the recors they actually remove the oil squiters from race motors because the oil hitting the piston actually slows it down. Makes more power and runs better at higher RPMs without them.
Im gonna lean more toward KJs explanation on this one... Oil squirters have no affect on piston speed to my knowledge, and if they do, It would have to be minute... due to the inertia the rotating assemble has at those speeds...

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Oil squirters serve no lubrication purpose at all, they are simply there to cool cast pistons. Forged pistons dissipate heat so well it is not needed, blocking them off gives a gain in oil pressure at higher rpms where it is needed.
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Old Dec 22, 2005 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by KJ
Oil squirters serve no lubrication purpose at all, they are simply there to cool cast pistons. Forged pistons dissipate heat so well it is not needed, blocking them off gives a gain in oil pressure at higher rpms where it is needed.
well i will stick with mine i love the oiljets.i myself modify them alway and cut rebend them to jet the oil right onto the base at compressionstroke and seeing i use ls cranks in my gsr builds have not failed yet with forged internals but if you use a ls crank in a gsr block you will need to Shave down the 1-4 cyl head of the bolt anyway to make the ls crank work or if you remove and plug it then it will be fine
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