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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 06:40 PM
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its funny because everyone PMs and IM's me about how "nice" my car is. I get so tired of all the compliaments....MY CAR DOESN'T FUCKING RUN!!!

well it runs but you know what I mean.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mtber
The FPR and guage are not really needed.
The AEBS i/m is not really needed ither but if you want it go for it...

I would recommend injectors bigger then 440ccs for your setup if you want to make decent whp.

Invest in some 550cc injectors & a walbro 255 lph fuel pump for now.
Besides that, invest the rest of your money in tuning & or a wideband
I beg to differ. So when I am trying to determine if my pump is keeping a 1:1 ratio, what will I be looking at? Or do I need to look at the small gauge that is mounted on fuel filter under the hood? What if I need to turn my base fp higher to squeeze some extra dc from my injectors....didn't know the stock fp you could raise it. Just some examples.

I agree on the injectors. Precisions are like 325 bucks for anything up to 1000cc sizes.

Personally if this was my car, I would remove the entire engine harness and start over. Confirm all your electronics are properly wired and grounded. Aesthetically you have a really nice car. Just work through the issues and get it tuned.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 60-1EK
I beg to differ. So when I am trying to determine if my pump is keeping a 1:1 ratio, what will I be looking at? Or do I need to look at the small gauge that is mounted on fuel filter under the hood? What if I need to turn my base fp higher to squeeze some extra dc from my injectors....didn't know the stock fp you could raise it. Just some examples.

I agree on the injectors. Precisions are like 325 bucks for anything up to 1000cc sizes.

Personally if this was my car, I would remove the entire engine harness and start over. Confirm all your electronics are properly wired and grounded. Aesthetically you have a really nice car. Just work through the issues and get it tuned.
Jason,

You have a remark about everything don't you ?
Obviously, I know what the reasons for using a fpr & guage are.

I was simply trying to save him some money & direct it to something more constructive. I have seen 100s of setups run fine with just a oem fpr & no guage, I will agree it is nice to have those items, but I would much rather invest that money into a wideband unit or other mission criticle components.

He can go ahead buy a fpr & guage & fuel rail and what ever else that isnt really needed... To make a reliable setup I simply suggested he directed his funds to good injectors and other important things such as a wideband etc.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 60-1EK
Personally if this was my car, I would remove the entire engine harness and start over.
well personally I am not a big balla 600whp+ shot caller like you so I'll have to stick with fighting the small fires as they arise. i'm just a ricer with a turbo
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by spectacle
well personally I am not a big balla 600whp+ shot caller like you so I'll have to stick with fighting the small fires as they arise. i'm just a ricer with a turbo
I have yet to see the car in person. But if the wiring looks like shit, I would have to agree with Jason in re-wiring the car. Intermittent electrical issues suck major donkey balls.
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Originally Posted by spectacle
well personally I am not a big balla 600whp+ shot caller like you so I'll have to stick with fighting the small fires as they arise. i'm just a ricer with a turbo
Thats free. Take off your engine harness and trace everything and clean it up. Doesn't require a 600whp car. Ask Nchatch or Alberto about wiring issues.

Mtber, now while a wideband is definately a good purchases, he isn't looking to tune his own car. He is trying to fight problems and have a solid setup...before tuning. Adj. FPR and FP gauges are definately a nice tool to have. Sure the small gauge under the hood and stock OEM regulator are going to work, but to a certain extent. I offer suggestions that are open and not a definitive rejection of ideas. Don't get upset because I bust your nuts, just leaving the door open for all the possibilities for using different tools.
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I actually suggested the fpr and gauge because at least then we can install his ud ecu and 450's and make sure that fuel isn't the problem because that o2 isn't reading anything but ambient air right now. So a good economically viable solution to get the car reliable enough to bring to a tuner would be the afformentioned and an exhaust. I'm not trusting the o2 sensor regardless, instead of wasting cash on another of those I pointed out the great deals on the PLX devices which he will likely use when the funds are available.

As for the harness, I whole heartedly agree with yanking it out and getting it to look like a harness and not some russian grade telemetry project. Right now as it is, the o2 sensor wiring needs completely redone, and the vtec wiring could be alot better. Not much else is wrong in the way of wiring and grounds.

He's already to get a new pump as well because he's not 100% about what injectors or pump came with the car. So then we can rule out the fuel pump at that point as well. By then we'll know timing and fuel should be good to go.

I really doubt you'll have any issues like you've been experiencing once the pump and injectors are swapped out and you can run the UD. The dizzy and crimp connectors were you're biggest problems to begin with and those are all caught up.

As for the Oil leak, that's gonna be a big job for you man. You are really gonna have to get dirty. I'll help point things out on the way, but all that's really needed is some Honda gasket, a couple cans of BPC and the correct TQ on all your bolts. But we can address all that after it's running good because it's not all that bad of a leak. You're just being picky and impatient.

I know it's a pain, but the reward in the end will be worth it. If you feel the need to give up, by all means do what you have to, but it's not far from being a decent hatch.

If you stick with it, you'll continue to learn some great mechanic tips and meet some cool peeps. And go broke, join the club.

But alas, you said it yourself... "Everything Happens for a Reason" And you're the one making it happen.
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 60-1EK
Thats free. Take off your engine harness and trace everything and clean it up. Doesn't require a 600whp car. Ask Nchatch or Alberto about wiring issues.
i understand that..but even though you've never met me you should have picked up on by my posts that I am incapable of taking off and entire wiring harness, making sure everything is straight, and putting it all back to together. I can barely change a fuel filter without breaking shit (I haven't yet to this point...fuel filter - 2 spectacle - 0). Another thing you guys probably aren't remembering is this is my daily driver car, I have no backup. I realize now this was the wrong car to buy at the wrong time and I am paying the consequences. But I am still posting on this board for help and I feel we're getting closer to fixing a lot of the problems. All I'm waiting on now is money.
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Trip
As for the Oil leak, that's gonna be a big job for you man. You are really gonna have to get dirty. I'll help point things out on the way, but all that's really needed is some Honda gasket, a couple cans of BPC and the correct TQ on all your bolts. But we can address all that after it's running good because it's not all that bad of a leak. You're just being picky and impatient.
maybe...but I'm pretty sure somebody is gonna get paid to fix it. I don't have the time
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