Hondata has nothing to do with it. 1600's dont idle well in a honda no matter what fuel management you are using.

 

I run 96lb injectors currently. They are maxed out on duty cycle making 540whp@9,000 rpm. I have a 1200hp areomotive fuel pump with a fuel cell with all new fuel lines. So volume is not a problem. I thought too when i bought those injectors they would support alot more hp but i found out otherwise. Basically like Jason stated the high rpm's along with boost eat up alot of fuel up top. I'm going to 1600cc myself. If the car was street driven alot the biggest i would go with is 1200's. This way you would have better driveablity.

 

You don't need sleeves.

 

I dont know who you are dealing with. I just got a block back from SFP. They use ERL and install Darton sleeves. It took 2 weeks. The cost was $1399 plus $70 for shipping. Chavez sells GE for $980. Thats why i told you to go with them. When i give advice i have nothing to gain. I'm just going off of my own mistakes and experiences that i have had or made. You do what you want but i'm makeing ober 500whp and plan on making 700+ when i'm done with my GE block. As far as Darton not having GSR's you are right. Thats why SFP buys them off of me for 1000-1200 dollars. Because thats what they are worth. Good GSR's are getting rarer by the day. I have sold all but one of my GSR blocks. I think if i need another block i will by one straight from Darton.

 

what hp level can i run with pistons and rods. every one has there own opinion on this.

As soon as u say build up everyone's first reply is get it sleevee what if i dont wanna run big boost just be safe and run a little more than usaully lets say 300 to 350.

i knoa alot of people say stock sleeves can hold up to 500 not sure.

but its not for certain though ??/

 

Shoot this dude Ling an e-mail.

iiilgsrlll@aol.com

He has a Benson sleeved and Earl assembled B18c1 block with all new surfaces and bearings. He is asking $2,500.00 OBO plus shipping.

 

Thats a great deal but nobody on tr will know. That set up with JE pistons and either crower/pauter rods sells for $4,500 new at SFP. Thats HAWT.

 

Sorry to get off topic, but how does fuel management not have anything to do with it? Have you tuned your AEM yet? See the idle control tables vs. the Hondata tables(Or lack there of)? The AEM unit has very nice idle control maps that the tuner should be able to get the 1600cc injectors to idle like a champ. The fact that they are in the Honda motor has nothing to do with it.

 

IMO it's a good deal because Earl charges $2,975.00 for resleeving, bore/honed, deck, return shipping, CP pistons, Eagle rods, bearings and assembly. This is without a block.

 

I'm not going to get into what AEM has and how it's better. I have tried to tell/explain explain many times how AEM is a better set up over Hondata and have gotten flamed everytime. I have been running it for 3 years now. Many tuners that specialize in AEM tuning have all told me that its hard to get the car to idle well on that big of an injector. Thats why i said it didnt make a difference on engine managemant. A 2.0 liter motor does not like to idle with 1600cc injectors. Yes honda motor doesnt have anything to do with it except its size. I hope my tuner can get the car to idle like a champ but Frank@SFP has told me its not going to happen. Also Brad@Altered Atmosphere who is coming down to do some tuning on Jerrys Mirage along with some other cars with AEM has also told me the car will not idle well with 1600cc injectors. I'm going off of their knowledge.