THE street tire VS SLICK debate thread...
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Originally posted by 60-1EK
I will reply back to you because it seems like you are a domestic guy, my whole issue is when the idea was swung around that there were some hondas in the area that were making 500+ whp and were street cars. At first they called it a fable tale. Then once Ron(qitstrn) started going to the universal "track" and chris(insanecivicsedan) started racing at the universal "track" and talking smack. The whole idea turned from a fable tale, to "your street cars consist of slicks and roll racing only". I could go back to many threads and see where domestic people went from saying 500+whp street Hondas were fable, to now they say that roll racing is for people who can't set up their cars right. No matter what quick Hondas do, there will always be hate. So I decided at track day, I will see what I can do on my normal, non gaudy looking street tires from a dig. Needless to say, many of those haters now have shut up. As more and more hondas get their bugs worked out, more and more haters shut up. I just let my car do the talking.
FWD cars have serious issues with traction on higher hp cars and slicks are the only option to get all the power to the ground. I refuse to run stupid sized drag radials on my car.
I will reply back to you because it seems like you are a domestic guy, my whole issue is when the idea was swung around that there were some hondas in the area that were making 500+ whp and were street cars. At first they called it a fable tale. Then once Ron(qitstrn) started going to the universal "track" and chris(insanecivicsedan) started racing at the universal "track" and talking smack. The whole idea turned from a fable tale, to "your street cars consist of slicks and roll racing only". I could go back to many threads and see where domestic people went from saying 500+whp street Hondas were fable, to now they say that roll racing is for people who can't set up their cars right. No matter what quick Hondas do, there will always be hate. So I decided at track day, I will see what I can do on my normal, non gaudy looking street tires from a dig. Needless to say, many of those haters now have shut up. As more and more hondas get their bugs worked out, more and more haters shut up. I just let my car do the talking.
FWD cars have serious issues with traction on higher hp cars and slicks are the only option to get all the power to the ground. I refuse to run stupid sized drag radials on my car.
oh and your right, I am a domestic guy.
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Originally Posted by Zate
i still stand by the fact that 75% of 16-23 year olds are dropped babies.
Originally Posted by Boosted240
Mustangs are the hondas of the domestic cars. The drivers are always doing ricer revs and just like hondas, about the only place you cant buy parts for them is at 7-11.
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Originally posted by 60-1EK
I will reply back to you because it seems like you are a domestic guy, my whole issue is when the idea was swung around that there were some hondas in the area that were making 500+ whp and were street cars. At first they called it a fable tale. Then once Ron(qitstrn) started going to the universal "track" and chris(insanecivicsedan) started racing at the universal "track" and talking smack. The whole idea turned from a fable tale, to "your street cars consist of slicks and roll racing only". I could go back to many threads and see where domestic people went from saying 500+whp street Hondas were fable, to now they say that roll racing is for people who can't set up their cars right. No matter what quick Hondas do, there will always be hate. So I decided at track day, I will see what I can do on my normal, non gaudy looking street tires from a dig. Needless to say, many of those haters now have shut up. As more and more hondas get their bugs worked out, more and more haters shut up. I just let my car do the talking.
FWD cars have serious issues with traction on higher hp cars and slicks are the only option to get all the power to the ground. I refuse to run stupid sized drag radials on my car.
I will reply back to you because it seems like you are a domestic guy, my whole issue is when the idea was swung around that there were some hondas in the area that were making 500+ whp and were street cars. At first they called it a fable tale. Then once Ron(qitstrn) started going to the universal "track" and chris(insanecivicsedan) started racing at the universal "track" and talking smack. The whole idea turned from a fable tale, to "your street cars consist of slicks and roll racing only". I could go back to many threads and see where domestic people went from saying 500+whp street Hondas were fable, to now they say that roll racing is for people who can't set up their cars right. No matter what quick Hondas do, there will always be hate. So I decided at track day, I will see what I can do on my normal, non gaudy looking street tires from a dig. Needless to say, many of those haters now have shut up. As more and more hondas get their bugs worked out, more and more haters shut up. I just let my car do the talking.
FWD cars have serious issues with traction on higher hp cars and slicks are the only option to get all the power to the ground. I refuse to run stupid sized drag radials on my car.
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i am kinda torn in between both i love the way slicks hook and rule out the tractionless issue. but i would like to see the best i could accomplish on street tires, i have beat domestics that run 11.80s on street tires on MY street tires, but still like the way slicks pull.
my personal goals are 10.80s from a street driven honda with less than 500 hp, just good ole fashion badass driving........haha
my personal goals are 10.80s from a street driven honda with less than 500 hp, just good ole fashion badass driving........haha
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Originally posted by Drace1963
I,m not hating on anyone for what they drive. to each there own right. I just think that slicks will hook up better then street tires, and that is what is best for the track. thats all. I'm not trying to start any kind of pissing match. oh and your right, I am a domestic guy.
I,m not hating on anyone for what they drive. to each there own right. I just think that slicks will hook up better then street tires, and that is what is best for the track. thats all. I'm not trying to start any kind of pissing match.
oh and your right, I am a domestic guy.
So the biggest street tire that will fit with no mods? 225/50/15. Thats what 60-1Ek runs and what he used for the track. Not good traction. Well now for your tire sizes that you can use. I dont have enough time to type them all. I will make it easy for you. When i run street tires against street tires i'm up against Cameros and mustangs with either 295's or 315's on the back in a DR. Thats wider then my slicks. You are in the wrong forum asking these questions because we dont have a choice in street tires like yourself. So i will run slick to slick with me cutting a 1.6 60 ft and you cutting a 1.3. One word UNDERDOG. I still manage to win most of the time.
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Originally posted by qitstrn
Well this is a totally different issue for us then you. RWD loves street tires because on DR's RWd can pull the same 60ft that a FWD would on slicks. So you cant even compare. What should i put on the front of my car? I basically have 2 choices only. 235/60/15 0r 275/50/15. Both dont fit and my car has to be modified to run them. Lets try a 14inch? 225/60/14. Wow those are huge! So the biggest street tire that will fit with no mods? 225/50/15. Thats what 60-1Ek runs and what he used for the track. Not good traction. Well now for your tire sizes that you can use. I dont have enough time to type them all. I will make it easy for you. When i run street tires against street tires i'm up against Cameros and mustangs with either 295's or 315's on the back in a DR. Thats wider then my slicks. You are in the wrong forum asking these questions because we dont have a choice in street tires like yourself. So i will run slick to slick with me cutting a 1.6 60 ft and you cutting a 1.3. One word UNDERDOG. I still manage to win most of the time.
Well this is a totally different issue for us then you. RWD loves street tires because on DR's RWd can pull the same 60ft that a FWD would on slicks. So you cant even compare. What should i put on the front of my car? I basically have 2 choices only. 235/60/15 0r 275/50/15. Both dont fit and my car has to be modified to run them. Lets try a 14inch? 225/60/14. Wow those are huge!
So the biggest street tire that will fit with no mods? 225/50/15. Thats what 60-1Ek runs and what he used for the track. Not good traction. Well now for your tire sizes that you can use. I dont have enough time to type them all. I will make it easy for you. When i run street tires against street tires i'm up against Cameros and mustangs with either 295's or 315's on the back in a DR. Thats wider then my slicks. You are in the wrong forum asking these questions because we dont have a choice in street tires like yourself. So i will run slick to slick with me cutting a 1.6 60 ft and you cutting a 1.3. One word UNDERDOG. I still manage to win most of the time.
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Originally Posted by Zate
i still stand by the fact that 75% of 16-23 year olds are dropped babies.
Originally Posted by Boosted240
Mustangs are the hondas of the domestic cars. The drivers are always doing ricer revs and just like hondas, about the only place you cant buy parts for them is at 7-11.
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Originally posted by Drace1963
I,m not hating on anyone for what they drive. to each there own right. I just think that slicks will hook up better then street tires, and that is what is best for the track. thats all. I'm not trying to start any kind of pissing match. oh and your right, I am a domestic guy.
I,m not hating on anyone for what they drive. to each there own right. I just think that slicks will hook up better then street tires, and that is what is best for the track. thats all. I'm not trying to start any kind of pissing match.
oh and your right, I am a domestic guy.
I was cutting 2.116 60' on my drag radials. Domestics can cut that on some econo tires in the rain. I just wanted to see what the best I can do from a dig on my normal street tire setup. When I want to see how much stuff I can break, or how fast I can go is when I put on the slicks.
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Originally posted by Drace1963
ok, get your slicks and we will run. at the track. or do we even need to? you know what both cars do.
ok, get your slicks and we will run. at the track. or do we even need to? you know what both cars do.
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man you seem like you are getting bent out of shape. No my car has never went in the 8's, but I havent tryed to put it there yet either.
No my car has never went in the 8's, but I havent tryed to put it there yet either.
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Originally Posted by Zate
i still stand by the fact that 75% of 16-23 year olds are dropped babies.
Originally Posted by Boosted240
Mustangs are the hondas of the domestic cars. The drivers are always doing ricer revs and just like hondas, about the only place you cant buy parts for them is at 7-11.
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well thats good cause i'm not tryin to piss anyone off. I'm happy aboput saturday night also because thats the fastest that car has ever been, and me to for that matter.
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Originally Posted by Zate
i still stand by the fact that 75% of 16-23 year olds are dropped babies.
Originally Posted by Boosted240
Mustangs are the hondas of the domestic cars. The drivers are always doing ricer revs and just like hondas, about the only place you cant buy parts for them is at 7-11.
