supercharger ??
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Originally posted by Cronic
Compressing air creates heat. You left that out.
I still think an non-aftercooled SC is making more heat in the intake then my intercooled turbo in it's efficiency range.
Compressing air creates heat. You left that out.
I still think an non-aftercooled SC is making more heat in the intake then my intercooled turbo in it's efficiency range.
and yes an INTERCOOLED turbo will run a lower iat than a blower.
thats what i said.
well thats all for now, i'm gonna go... place.
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Anyone concider the LHT Liquid to air intercooler? Or are you guys just concidering the fact that this guy is to cheap to spend the extra $1400?
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Originally posted by RONIN
positive displacement blowers generally don't run aftercoolers true. but supercharges are more compression friendly because the intake charge temp doesn't go as high as on turbo. the blower gets heat from 2 sources, from being mounted to the motor and from the friction it creates while cramming air into the intake. generally the jrsc is not going to exceed about 250 for iat, and works great with nitrous...
positive displacement blowers generally don't run aftercoolers true. but supercharges are more compression friendly because the intake charge temp doesn't go as high as on turbo. the blower gets heat from 2 sources, from being mounted to the motor and from the friction it creates while cramming air into the intake. generally the jrsc is not going to exceed about 250 for iat, and works great with nitrous...
I was simply going by what you said. You meantioned nothing about moleculles collieding, atoms splitting, or anything about compressing, cept cramming air into the intake. That left MUCH for interpretation, and so I said the literal of how it should've been said.
Im not trying to argue about it, just letting you see my point.
Back on topic: an intercooled turbo will make less heat then a non-AC supercharger... SO WHICH one is more compression friendly????
Turbo.
No one ever runs a turbo on a performance setup w/o an intercooler unless they have SOME way of controlling intake temps...
It is very common for S/C's not to have such methods...
Oh, and Keith's brother... I did mention "generally" they dont have means of cooling. In this descussion, there are no IC's on the superchargers... and YES this kids too cheap to buy one I assume.
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LMAO look right here Heres your answer !!
JRSC- 3-4k bones = SHITTY SLOW
Turbo Setup 3-4K = 4-500hp hmm
Superchargers are a waste of money and time unless you just want a peppy car..
Whoever said Superchargers arnt intercooled is wring, they have aftercoolers Ive seen one inperson pretty impressed ! and Chris when you go spank that heffer in whatever POS hes talking about call me i wanna watch !!
Buy a turbo youll be happier !!! Chargers are ghey !
JRSC- 3-4k bones = SHITTY SLOW
Turbo Setup 3-4K = 4-500hp hmm
Superchargers are a waste of money and time unless you just want a peppy car..
Whoever said Superchargers arnt intercooled is wring, they have aftercoolers Ive seen one inperson pretty impressed ! and Chris when you go spank that heffer in whatever POS hes talking about call me i wanna watch !!
Buy a turbo youll be happier !!! Chargers are ghey !
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lol, well, ill put in my .02 cents then.....
a supercharger is mostly ideal when you have to get out of a tight turn faster than your turbo'ed opponent, a.k.a Endurance races in mountains...
a turbo charger is mostly ideal for long straight roads(more or less)....and yes you can change the spooling time to make it get up quicker and matching a superchargers ability out of a turn....
if I was Betting on 0-60ft time, I guarantee the supercharger will win 98% of the time, now if its like 1/8th, or 1/4 mile, id bet turbo...
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ok, this is officially GHEY now that i have posted....it all comes down to..."do i want to jump the line faster(meaning you have more motor than the other guy)....or do i NEED Big boost(to match a freakin 400c.i. motor)
a supercharger is mostly ideal when you have to get out of a tight turn faster than your turbo'ed opponent, a.k.a Endurance races in mountains...
a turbo charger is mostly ideal for long straight roads(more or less)....and yes you can change the spooling time to make it get up quicker and matching a superchargers ability out of a turn....
if I was Betting on 0-60ft time, I guarantee the supercharger will win 98% of the time, now if its like 1/8th, or 1/4 mile, id bet turbo...
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ok, this is officially GHEY now that i have posted....it all comes down to..."do i want to jump the line faster(meaning you have more motor than the other guy)....or do i NEED Big boost(to match a freakin 400c.i. motor)
