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The reason Im being so hard on you is because your talking out of your ass. I've seen boosted Hondas, using AEM, Hondata, Haltek. I know the generalized equations where one can estimate horsepower, and I can read compressor maps, I don't know everything, but I know enough to realize you have no idea what your talking about. When I see someone spreading misinformation across my wonderful tech forums, I call them out, and I belittle them as such.
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The reason Im being so hard on you is because your talking out of your ass. I've seen boosted Hondas, using AEM, Hondata, Haltek. I know the generalized equations where one can estimate horsepower, and I can read compressor maps, I don't know everything, but I know enough to realize you have no idea what your talking about. When I see someone spreading misinformation across my wonderful tech forums, I call them out, and I belittle them as such.
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I think running 15lbs on a unsleeved block is asking for a cracked sleeve. 12lbs max. Hey if you want to blow your motor be my guest. I have never heard of anyone recomending to run 15lbs unsleeved even with the almighty hondata. Why take the chance?
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How am I talking out of my ass. Ok Sorry I have seen GSRs with 8lbs with 300 whp and I have seen LS's with 12lbs do the same. Sorry. Maybe you need to hit the dynos some more. I may not know everything but I refused to be put down by some asshole because his buddy has a pefromance shop. Why don't you come down to Sarasota and see some real shit. When was the last time you put twin turbos on a Testerosa
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Dunno, ask John, and his clients that have been running 15psi on stock sleeves for a couple years.
Ask Chris and Mike from ex Speed Street who have been running upwards of 20psi on stock sleeves for over a year, this motor has been in two different cars, pulling mid/low 11's since I met them early last year.
I ran 15psi on my single cam for months before the unfortunate Gandy 26psi incident.
How about garage advance in Orlando makeing 308whp on a STOCK BLOCK single cam in a CRX? They had that for over a year.
Just trying to say, Honda sleeves are not as weak as some people think.
I've seen gsr's making 280+whp on 8psi, never have I seen 300whp from a B18a/b motor with such little boost. Perhaps there was some nitrous in the mix? Or perhaps the turbo was just stupid large.
It's certainly possible with a large enough turbo, however, not very streetable.
By "well into 200's" I meant 250-275whp on an LS motor.
Ask Chris and Mike from ex Speed Street who have been running upwards of 20psi on stock sleeves for over a year, this motor has been in two different cars, pulling mid/low 11's since I met them early last year.
I ran 15psi on my single cam for months before the unfortunate Gandy 26psi incident.
How about garage advance in Orlando makeing 308whp on a STOCK BLOCK single cam in a CRX? They had that for over a year.
Just trying to say, Honda sleeves are not as weak as some people think.
I've seen gsr's making 280+whp on 8psi, never have I seen 300whp from a B18a/b motor with such little boost. Perhaps there was some nitrous in the mix? Or perhaps the turbo was just stupid large.
It's certainly possible with a large enough turbo, however, not very streetable.
By "well into 200's" I meant 250-275whp on an LS motor.
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Thats right why take the chance of ruining your engine. To prove you can build a half assed motor. Sorry I would take the word of people like Kurt Gordon from KG Racing or Raymond from JG Engine Dynamics. Sorry These are more creditable then you.
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One thing I don't understand is the lbs talk. I know everyone knows this but 12lbs on a T3/T04E, 12lbs on an SC63 and 12lbs on an 18G is allot different. No reply needed for this ...
With larger injectors, forged pistons, forged rods, a fuel pump, Hondata and some tuning you will be fine. Why do you want to spray ontop of the turbo? I will never understand this unless the individual is doing it to help spool the turbo. I have seen B18b sleeves hold allot of power. Good luck with your car
With larger injectors, forged pistons, forged rods, a fuel pump, Hondata and some tuning you will be fine. Why do you want to spray ontop of the turbo? I will never understand this unless the individual is doing it to help spool the turbo. I have seen B18b sleeves hold allot of power. Good luck with your car
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Thank you...Just to put my too sense in....Ive seen a 92-95 hatch with a ls runing over 20lbs on a t3/t4 and 100 shot direct port..On stock sleevs..Some people might know of him his name is ozzy the hatch is red..He goes to test and tune once in a while..And he will tell you stock sleevs will hold over 20lbs....Is all he has done to the block was a blockgaurd... This is why ive asked these questions...I just could not believe it...
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This B18b put down 430whp for a while. He starting spraying and at an NHRA event cracked a stock sleeve at over 500whp.
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