I was just saying what I have seen not that I would road race a 1100whp car on a stock engine.

rb should stand for "RICE BURNER" I have seen turbo mag call the engine "race built" and "race bred" I dont know what kinda engines fucked and made the rb but "race built" sounds better to me I am not ass backwards japanese but what ever you think it should be called is fine with me.


this whole thing is about someone saying jap cars out handle american cars and that is just not true now if you want to argue over a car you cant buy or a engine that is only "SOLD" in the "Land of the Rising Sun" fine great ok well this is america .


Nurburgring lap records

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These are the lap times for some of the production cars (production car = standard car, no tuner like novitec, gemballa,lingenfelter,hamann, bla bla bla involved)

Porsche Carrera GT 7:32
Mercedes-McLaren SLR 7:40
Corvette Z06 (c6) 7:42
Porsche 996 GT2 7:42
GT2 7:46
Jaguar XJ220 7:46
Lamborghini Murciélago 7:50
Lamborghini Gallardo 7:52
GT3 - New 7:54
Corvette Z06 (c5) 2004 7:56
Porsche 911 Turbo (996) 7:56
Chevrolet Corvette C6 7:59
GT3 - Old 8:03
Ferrari 575M Maranello 8:05
Porsche S (997) 8:06
Ferrari 550 Maranello 8:07
Ferrari 360 Modena 8:09
Honda NSX-R 8:09
m5 e60 8:13
Honda NSX 8:16
CTS-V 2005 c/d 8:19
BMW M3 E46 8:22
Nissan 350z 8:26
Audi S4 4.2 Avant 8:29
STS-V 05 - Autoweek 8:31
Porsche Boxster S, 252 PS/1386 kg 8:32
Honda NSX (6-speed) Coupe, 276 PS (Top Gear magazine) 8:33
Honda s2000 8:39
Dodge Viper GTS ?
Integra Type-R 8:43
Porsche Boxster, 204 PS/1325 k 8:54
Mini Cooper S Works, 200 hp 8:55


where is the r-34 ????????????????

where is the rb????????????

 

Nordschleife excluding GP track, 20.6 kms:
Scuderia Hanseat : “Grand-Prix Course” Nürburgring, Nordschleife

6:55* -- 178.699 km/h -- Radical SR8, 360 PS/650 kg, Michael Vergers (sep,28 05), (*street-legal only in the UK)
Nürburgring Nordschleife Lap Record Smashed
'Ring Record - Track & Race Car Magazine, February 2006

7:11* -- 172.065 km/h -- McLaren F1 (GTR?), Mika Hakkinen, SPS Automotive Performance - Race (* not an official source)
7:12* -- 171.666 km/h -- Radical SR3 Turbo, 320 PS/500 kg (test drive 07/03) (*mfr.)
7:14.89 171.181 km/h – Donkervoort D8 270 RS, , 350 PS/600 kg, Michael Düchting (nov,6 05), AutoWeek.nl - Donkervoort opnieuw recordhouder Nordschleife
7:15.63 169.311 km/h -- Edo Porsche 996 GT2 RS, 542 PS/1284 kg, Patrick Simons (sport auto 09/05), www.edo-competition.de/fileadmin/MEDIA/VIDEO/nordschleife_runde.avi
911 & Porsche World - Feature: GT2 Ringmeister
7:18.01 170.236 km/h -- Donkervoort D8 RS, 370 PS/670 kg, Michael Duechting, sport auto 12/2004 Donkervoort D8 RS - New King of the Ring - Supercars.net
7:19* -- 168.929 km/h -- Radical SR3 1500 Turbo, Phil Bennet (jun,15 03) (*mfr.), New Radical Smashes Nürburgring Nordschleife Lap Record on Maiden Outing.
www.radicalsportscars.com/gallery/ring2b.mpg
7:27.82 167.201 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F Clubsport, 641 PS/1230 kg, Marc Basseng (EVO #112) Autocar - Pagani claims new Nurburgring record
7:28* -- 166.652 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, * company testd river Walther Roehrl (Autobild 07/04)
7:31 --- 164,375 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl according to Webb-TV - Auto Motor & Sport - Sveriges snabbaste bil-tv!
7:32* -- 164.071 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F, 650 PS/1230 kg (*mfr.) Importer of Pagani Automobili : Zonda, Zonda F, specialist Lamborghini, Ferrari, classic and sports cars
7:32* -- 164.071 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/ 1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl (*mfr.) First Drive: 2008 Porsche 911 GT2 - Previews - Car and Driver October 2007
7:32.18 - 164.071 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/ 1440 kg, company test driver Walter Roehrl autobild.de - Testberichte - Duell am Ring
7:32.44 163.911 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, definitive time Horst von Saurma (sport auto 01/04)
7:32.52 163.882 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann (sport auto 01) , TopNews
7:33 --- 163.708 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F, 602 PS/ 1371 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto 05/06) sport auto Supertest: Pagani Zonda F - Supercars.net
7:33 --- 163.708 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/1497 kg (sport auto 11/07) sport auto Supertest Porsche 997 GT2 - Supercars.net
7:34 --- 163.586 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1418 kg, Horst von Saurma (sport auto, oct,17-18 05) sport auto Supertest: Koenigsegg CCR - Supercars.net
7:35* -- 159.864 km/h -- Nissan GT-R, 473 PS/1724 kg (*mfr.) GT-R rocks the 'Ring: Nissan supercar in fast company - Spied Vehicles - Motor Trend
7:36 --- 162.631 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, factory test driver Walther Röhrl (02)
7.38* -- 161.628 km/h -- Mercedes SLR 722 GT, *company test driver Chris Goodwin News, Auto + Produkte- Mercedes SLR: Limitierte Rennversion - auto motor und sport
7.38* -- 161.628 km/h -- Nissan GT-R, *company test driver Suzuki, A Lap of the Nurburgring in the 2009 Nissan GT-R
7.39* -- 161.575 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1395 kg, *mfr. (quote sport auto 05/06)
7:39 --- 161.575 km/h -- Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1180 kg, Koenigsegg Official Website
7.39 --- 161.575 km/h -- TechArt GT street (based on 997 Turbo) 620 PS/1552 kg (sport auto 10/07) sport auto Supertest: TechArt GT street - Supercars.net
7:39.39 161.219 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg, Walther Röhrl (AutoBild 02/06)
7:40 --- 161.217 km/h – Bugatti 16/4 Veyron, 1001 PS/1980 kg (Wheels magazine Australia, 12/05)
7:40* -- 161.217 km/h – Lamborghini Murcielago LP640, 640 PS/1655 kg (AutoBild sportscars 01/07) *mfr., company test driver Giorgio Sanna
7:40 --- 161.217 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 07/04)
7:40* -- 161.217 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1495 kg, *cold and partially wet track (sport auto 12/03)
7:40 --- 161.217 km/h -- Porsche 997 Turbo, 480 PS/ ??? kg, Michelin Cup Sport tyres (Motortrend)
7:41 --- 160.868 km/h -- Manthey Porsche GT3 M410, 413hp (AutoBild 07/04), www.manthey-motors.de/nextshopcms/cmspdf.asp?id=217
7:42* -- 160.519 km/h – Ford GT, 550 PS/ 1521 kg (*as indicated by Octane magazine, 11/05)
7:42 --- 160.519 km/h -- Mosler MT900S Photon, Joao Barbosa (04) (according to dailysportscar.net)
7:42 --- 160.519 km/h –- Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/1420 kg (*mfr.)
7:42 --- 160.519 km/h -- Radical 1500 SR3, 230 PS/510 kg (02)
7:42.9 - 160.207 km/h -- Corvette Z06, 500 PS/1319 kg, Jan Magnusen, (Sporbilen, jun,26 05) SUPERCARS.NET - Community Forums
7:43 --- 160.173 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Roehrl (MOTOR magazine)
7:43 --- 160.173 km/h -- TechArt Porsche GT Street (based on 996 GT2) 620 PS/1453 kg, (sport auto 08/02)
7:43.5 - 160,000 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 02)
7:44* -- 159.828 km/h -- Nissan GT-R, 473 PS/1724 kg *company chief engineer Kazutoshi Mizuno, 2009 Nissan GT-R - AutoWeek
7:44 --- 159.828 km/h -- Pagani Zonda C12 S, 555 PS/1388 kg (sport auto 07/02)
7:45* -- 159.484 km/h -- Aston Martin V8 Vantage N24, 385 PS/1350 kg (race car, not street-legal, slicks)(*mfr.)
7:45 --- 159.484 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche GTR 600, 600 PS (00)
7:45* -- 159.484 km/h -- Mercedes CLK 63 AMG Black Series, 507 PS/1760 kg (*mfr.) according to First Drive: 2008 Mercedes-Benz CLK63 AMG Black Series - Previews - Car and Driver May 2007
7:45* -- 159.484 km/h -- McLaren F1, *estimated lap time from a video available at PistonHeads.tv
7:45*-- 159.484 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/ 1424 kg, worls driver Walter Roehrl, *mfr.
7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- Jaguar XJ220, John Walton (EVO magzine 07/00), www.jwhubbers.nl/ring/docs/evo-0007-7.jpg
7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera, 522 PS/1528 kg (sport auto 09/07) sport auto Supertest Gallardo SL - Supercars.net
7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT2, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/01)
7:46 --- 159.142 km/h -- SHK Porsche 993 GT2, 652 PS (sport auto 99)
7:46.29 159.140 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera, 522 PS/1500 kg (Auto Italy 09/07) Gallardo SL: 7'46"29 @ NRing - Supercars.net
7:47 --- 158.801 km/h –- Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano, 620 PS/1805 kg (sport auto 01/07) sport auto Supertest: Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano - Supercars.net
7:47 --- 158.801 km/h –- Lamborghini Murcielago LP640, 640 PS/1748 kg (sport auto 08/07) sport auto Supertest Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 - Supercars.net
YouTube - Lamborghini Nordschleife
7:47* -- 158.801 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/ 1440 kg, works driver Walter Roehrl, *mfr.
7:48 --- 158.463 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3 RS, 415 PS/1424 kg (sport auto 03/07) SUPERCARS.NET - Community Forums
7:48 --- 158.463 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT3, 415 PS/1440kg (sport auto 07/06) sport auto Supertest: Porsche 997 GT3 - Supercars.net
7:49 --- 158.124 km/h -- Corvette Z06, 512 PS/1440 kg (sport auto 06/07) sport auto Supertest: Corvette Z06 - Supercars.net
YouTube - Corvette z06 Nordschleife Nürburgring
7:49 --- 158.124 km/h –- BMW X5 Le Mans, 700 PS/~2000 kg, Hans-Joachim Stuck
7.49 --- 158.124 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3, 392 PS (AutoBild 2004)
7:49 --- 158.124 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 Cup, 360 PS/1207 kg (sport auto 02/99)
7:49.72 157.885 km/h -- Honda RC30, Helmut Daehne (93) (moto bike)
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- BMW E46 M3 CSL, 360 PS/1421 kg (sport auto 08/03)
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/02)
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- Westfield Super 7 with Hayabusa engine,
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h – Ford GT, 550 PS/1599 kg (sport auto 02/06)
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Gemballa Porsche 911 Le Mans (sport auto 95)
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo E-gear, 493 PS/1496 kg (sport auto 12/03)
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (sport auto 06/04)
7:54 --- 156.456 km/h -- Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582 PS/1678kg, (sport auto 03/05)
7:54 --- 156.456 km/h -- Porsche 996 GT3 (sport auto 06/03)
7:54 --- 156.456 km/h -- Porsche 997 Turbo, 480 PS/1620 kg (sport auto 06/07) sport auto Supertest Porsche 997 Turbo - Supercars.net
YouTube - Porsche Turbo Nordschleife
7:55* -- 156.126 km/h -- Aston Martin V8 Vantage N24, 385 PS/1350 kg (race car, not street-legal)(*mfr.)
7:55 --- 156.126 km/h -- Caterham R500 Superlight, Robert Nearn (EVO magazine 07/00)
7:55 --- 156.126 km/h – Ferrari F430 F1, 490 PS/1493 kg (sport auto 01/06) sport auto Supertest: Ferrari F430 F1 - Supercars.net
7:55 --- 156.126 km/h -- Nissan GT-R, 473 PS/1724 kg 2009 Nissan GT-R - AutoWeek
7:56 --- 155.798 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale, 425 PS/1387 kg (sport auto 02/04)
7:56 --- 155.798 km/h -- Porsche 996 Turbo, 420 PS/1569 kg (sport auto 06/00)
7:56* - 155.798 km/h -- Chevrolet Corvette Z06 ,company chief engineer Dave Hill (*mfr.)
7:56.50 155.594 km/h -- Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582 PS/1678kg, Klaus Ludwig (AutoBild 02/06)
7:56.65 155.569 km/h – Lamborghini Gallardo SE, 520 PS/1560 kg, Tom Kristensen (AutoBild 02/06)
7:56.73* 155.569 km/h -- Honda NSX-R (*Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion", lap not complete)
7:57 --- 155.472 km/h -- AC Schnitzer Tension, 552 PS/1797 kg (sport auto 04/07), sport auto Supertest: AC Schnitzer Tension - Supercars.net
7:57 --- 155.472 km/h -- Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo, 600 PS/1558 kg (sport auto 05/9
7:58 --- 156.652 km/h -- Audi RS4 4.2 V8 FSI, 420 PS/ 1650 kg, Frank Stippler, (10/05) www.8200rpm.com/forum/read.php?f=10&i=16841&t=16841\
7:59 --- 154.822 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Performance”, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 2004)
7:59* -- 154.822 km/h -- Chevrolet C6 Z51, company test driver Dave Hill (*mfr.)
7:59* -- 154.822 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R (*free of the speed limiter standard on UK versions, so it was discounted)
Autocar - Autocar archive: new record at the 'Ring

 

as you can see the

yellow would be an RB car

red would be the GTR thats coming out

and this list was updated last friday

 

how did I know you would put modded cars up there how tell me how.

show me one of a r34 with stock tires off the showroom floor !!!!!!!!

till then its not worth a crap.


oh and I didnt know this tread was about a car not even out yet I thought it was about paul walkers car??????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????

 

and 4 seconds difference on the Nürburgring means nothing.

every time under 8 mins is the shit on that track.

btw Nürburgring and Paul Walker Skyline.....this one got shot by me at the "Brünnchen"....no GT-R though

 

no r34...

the yellow is an r33 RB

the red is the VR38 thats in the new GTR...and thats even more "race bred" than the RB

 

haha tobi...dude has a gts and he puts GTR emblems on it lol

 

dude joeyk crazy eyes was being a smart ass when he said that about japanese cars because he in fact owns a mustang.

 

yea its a gts the black r34 next to that one was also a gts.....with GT-R badges....RICER!

 

is the vr38 and the new gtr your saving grace for the rb,somehow proving that the rb is great ???


how did you even get on to talking about the not yet sold gtr???
this thread never went there but you did if you dont remember I said I would take a r32 with a 2j and own all because I like the 2j and I like the r32 .

are you going to buy the new gtr is that why you just started to talk about it???

I have been in a fast r32 and I love the fact that it is lighter than a r34 and the way it looks and the way it handles it is only missing one thing in MY opinion a larger displacment engine so instead of building the crap out of a rb I think a 2j will do the job for less money and alot less hair pulling to get parts trackside when little things go wrong, look at what happened when japan ran a r34 here for a top speed run it broke and they sent it home the first time,there are no parts to fix shit.