Its true, the weakest part of the s2k's drivetrain is the diff., but that just reinforces the fact that it is a road car. It can be said that the weakest part of many cars is their suspension which is something that the s2k does not in any way have to make up for, so everyone can get along sharing their passion for cars, whatever niche that may be in

 

Throwing in the towel already?

If your street car is deeeep in the 10's, it is the shit.

Like I said, you have never driven anything remotely close to a fast car.

As that is a drag race, I did not expect a slalom to break out in the middle of it. But if you want one, we can do that too.

Logic suggest that if your car was built to accelerate, you may take it to a straight track. Logic suggest that if your car was built to corner, you may take it to a curvy one. FWIW, when I begin a sentence with the word 'Logic', much less in all caps, I try to at least follow it up with decent grammar.

Yeah, uh, no racing on a track here..........

Beg to differ.

 

OK i've never driven a FAST car you have that on me, i'll admit that. I've seen a good bit of fast cars and helped work on enough to have an opinion though. Like i said before that i obviously need to mention again i was in no way knocking drag cars!!!! That wasn't the intention of the thread. I just wondered why MORE people didn't race their cars at tracks that weren't just a bunch of 1/4 mile runs. On here generally EVERYONE and i honestly mean EVERYONE only races their car in 1/4 miles. Or that's all i generally hear/see threads about. Even when i see videos they are always of 1/4 mile races. ALL CARS modified weren't meant to drag race .

 

I never thought I'd say this, but thanks. Its nice to see some people pick out when I'm not completly talking out of my ass here.

 

Eric had it right, other than the STFU part. Just because you dont see the fun in it doesnt mean its stupid or pointless.

Look at this way. A friend an I could be shit talking back and forth about his car is faster and has the more power and who has the ability to drive back at the drag strip. We can pay $15 head down to bradenton and acutally race side by side.

If we wanna talk shit about who can out brake or out corner well.... We can head to sebring, and spend a lot of money, And we will be spending a lot of money cause they arent going to let to yahoos go tear it up their first time out. We are going to have get an instructor, know the rules then get signed off and do some solo stuff.

Sure we can do auto-x, but we would not be racing side by side, its fun, ive done it. But well, you have no idea the rush it is to be side by side with your friend as you are slamming gears chasing the finish line, neck and neck.

Its all fun, ive done a lot of it, it all offers a different thrill.

 

Hmm. Not a fan of general motorsport? Let's take a look at the following...

BTCC (around 95-97, when 4,5,6cyl cars limited to 2.0 liters NA were pushing out 320whp, doing 2g+ turns, and 3.5s 0-60[all w/ functional doors, head and tailights, turnsignals, and windshield wipers...not the "fancy" stickers Nascar and NHRA uses to imitate real cars])

DTM - Same as above, only better... V8's that that go above 10k rpm, and can turn left... and right...really fuckin fast

WRC - AWD grip and acceleration in the worst of your local climates while still being able to haul ass over even East Gunn Hwy's nasty manholes.

Group B- same as above, only better... disbanded when people were flyin off mountains. If it was on the street, wouldn't have that problem. I believe that was the first time Twin-Charge (both supercharger and turbocharger was used together for automobile competition)

Now granted, all of the above were backed by near never-ending amounts of funds. However, they all had to deal w/ limitations and restrictions which caused a LOSS of potential.

Fact remains...yes...a car will NEVER be the BEST in EVERY aspect. But can it be fuckin awesome in every aspect, hell yea.

as the whole dramawaffles drag queen vs. i can turn debate painfully continues... if 2 people are adament about finding out which car/driver combo is the best, they'll find a way to go to a road course and settle it, or atleast, that's the way it should be[my opinion, i know]. btw...look up chinmotorsports

 

That's the truth, but not with an 11-second+ ride, which make up about 99% of motorheads. That's who we're really talking about here, not some 6-second alky.

To beat that 99% 11s+ cars in dragracing you just write a bigger check to the engine builder.

To win at road racing you write a check to the track, and then another, and then another, and another and eventually maybe you might have what it takes to whoop up on most the competition no matter what kind of car you're driving.

I see the thrill in both, I just prefer the latter.

 

The engine builder says thanks... But really, horsepower is easy. Its hooking it up that pays the bills. Being involved in several forms of racing, nothing is harder than synching motor/clutch/suspension/track.

 

Agreed. Its all in the hooking. Thats how cars that deadhook stomp the everloving shit out of cars with much more power than them. Suspension is as much an art as a science. With will adujustable suspension you're tweaking and adjusting your car every single run trying to get that extra time. As you said, Chuck, these tire kickers with barely fast cars probably don't deal with this, but once you get into serious times it becomes quite a handful. By the same token, the tire kickers in road racing (which there are less of I'm sure. The cost is preventative) probably just start up and go without the parts they should have to effectivley road race.

 

Let's just say there is a whole lot more humility at a track than there is at a dragstrip. Getting passed by a spec Miata will do that to a guy.