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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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That was a nicely spun article doing exactly what "foreign car lovers" do when they talk about domestics. But its good to see American car companies finally ponying up to the competition!

This paragraph is an example of spin, as transparent as it might be:

"And what do GM and Ford get for making their existing plants more efficient? It isn't tax breaks. Instead, they get accusations of not being "competitive" enough! Maybe here I should also mention that the average domestic parts content for Kia is 3 percent, while the average domestic parts content of Ford and GM is 78 percent and 74 percent, respectively. This means that buying a U.S.-assembled (or even foreign-assembled, for that matter) GM or Ford supports more American jobs than a U.S.-assembled car or truck with a foreign nameplate."

-Spending billions of dollars making factories more "efficient"? I hear that robots are better than humans at assembling cars..

-"Because average domestics parts content for a Kia is 3 percent...means that buying a U.S. Assembled GM or Ford supports more American jobs than a US Assembled car with a foreign name plate."
No its doesn't, it means that buying a GM or Ford supports more jobs than a KIA. The article could certainly be right about that whole sentence but how does Kia represent any other car manufacturer?
Just because its my only way of comparing, my Civic was assembled using 80% US Domestic parts and my Integra was assembled using 70% US domestic parts.

to foreign propaganda, to domestic propaganda, for facts!

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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by theebluecrx
I have one question for gm.What the fuck is the Pontiac Vibe a domestic or import?
It's a Toyota Matrix...
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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by myltwon
I don't know I've never heard of either, so I'd still be skeptical...

















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Haha wow like those awards can't be bought. I'm sure theres a underground deal going there. Like that one commercial about motor having the open wheel test drive with the 4wd fully loaded fusion versus a base model camry and accord. LOL. If you're going to compare cars, make sure its apples to apples.
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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by obrien2

Last year, the Chevrolet Impala beat the Camry in initial quality, according to J.D. Power & Associates. And Consumer Reports just announced that both the Ford Fusion and Mercury Milan scored higher than both the Camry and the Honda Accord this year.
maybe theyre not selling because they make cars that look like...well...a ford fusion and a mercury milan
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Old Feb 16, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Sluggo
maybe theyre not selling because they make cars that look like...well...a ford Prelude and a mercury milan
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ElSuperSpic
Haha wow like those awards can't be bought. I'm sure theres a underground deal going there. Like that one commercial about motor having the open wheel test drive with the 4wd fully loaded fusion versus a base model camry and accord. LOL. If you're going to compare cars, make sure its apples to apples.
Exactly.Theres a awd lexus version of the camry that would have probably owned it.I bet they didint even use a v6 xle camry with sport suspension in that test.
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 05:28 AM
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and you guys think toyota and honda don't buy there awards and positive comments from magazines. lol
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ElSuperSpic
Haha wow like those awards can't be bought. I'm sure theres a underground deal going there. Like that one commercial about motor having the open wheel test drive with the 4wd fully loaded fusion versus a base model camry and accord. LOL. If you're going to compare cars, make sure its apples to apples.
yes it's true, mullet propaganda, that's why imports used to kick domestics ass in those magazines not long ago
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 05:51 AM
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The Fusion and the Impalla are the Fugliest cars built right now, both ford and GM have no design quality, everything looks bland, and chevy doesnt ever want to get out of their pushrod engines,which suck. The impalla is only selling for fleets and for Cops. Plus Ford is trying to make every car they make look like their damn trucks.peer Ugly
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Old Feb 17, 2007 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by theebluecrx
Exactly.Theres a awd lexus version of the camry that would have probably owned it.I bet they didint even use a v6 xle camry with sport suspension in that test.

and that would've probably put it WAY out of the price range that they were comparing..

the models they compared are as follows:


Consumers drove three vehicles: a 2007 Honda Accord EX-L V-6, a 2007 Toyota Camry XLE V-6 and a 2007 Ford Fusion SEL AWD V-6. - From Autoworld.com

the prices were for those models (according to edmunds.com) is 27k, 28k, and 22k respectively (based on the v-6 and automatic transmission).
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