I wouldnt say piece of shit.... lol they arent that bad... i agree though for right now F-150 > Tacom....(excluding the X Runner.. i think those are cool)

 

Ex-Toyota nutswinger. I got tired of them making nothing but boring cars and turned into Honda.


Absolutely correct. What people dont get a clear picture on is that I like the OLD Toyotas. Anything made after 98 by Toyota is not too interesting to me. Hell anything designed OBDII+ by them just doesnt do much for me.

Granted yes, my 20 year old Supra sees little-to-no roadtime, but in the 4 monthes that it did, it saw plenty of it. Its not so much how long I've had it be so good as it is the condition I bought it in, the condition that I drove around with it for that time, now realizing that wasnt the best idea. Even then, the car has been out of production worldwide for 14 years with an entirely different management and board of people working there than back then.

Basically let me clarify this for good. I'm a Toyota nutswinger of them built from 1970 to 1995. I still know buttloads about the new ones, specs, info, etc., but dont like them nearly as much as before. Its not really different from Chevy guys, who probably feel exactly the same way about a company that turned the Monte Carlo, Impala, etc. all into FWD boringboxes. Chevy just isnt what it used to be.
First of all, no need to get defensive. I wasnt calling you out or trying to point fingers, just posting what I know and have seen. We both have seen different numbers obviously for our respective recalls; I've hardly seen any actual 1MZ-FE sludge engines reported ANYWHERE, and seen plenty of Dodge trucks with the wheel problem.

As far as the transmission recalls, alls I know about them are what I've gone online randomly searching for what random recalls random DCX cars have had. Transmissions, at the time, were most prevelant.

 

EVERY car maker has problems when you sell that many cars... some more than others.

 

so I guess 380hp 5.7l V8, standard 6spd auto, out tows everything, out brakes everything, with class leading interior seating on the full cab, is a piece of shit?

 

^what has been the best selling truck for basicly the last 20 yrs? oo right thats the f150

 

without including fleet vehicle sales, which is a large reason why Ford is still in business, I'm willing to bet in 5 years or less, that will change. I'm not a truck person in the slightest, and up to this year, if I had to buy a truck it would have definitely been a F150, but the 07 Tundra is going to turn truck world on it's ear.

 

^it happens w/ every car, someone comes out w/ sumthing brand new and improved and then other follow andmake it better slightly

 

They were saying the same about the Nissan Titan and how are it's sales doing?........


The Toyota will have 80 hp more than the F150. From what I read it's fuel economy is worse than the F150. There are also changes coming for the F150 also like a diesel motor and a possibility of the V10 from the Super Duty.

At the end of the day Ford/Chevy truck > anything the Jap market has to offer except maybe a V8 muscle car motor in a Tacoma lol.

 

^+1, take the motor out of the tacoma and put it in a car! makea real fucking sports car again!

 

I know ive seen Toyota in goverment fleet services and work trucks for companies so that whole fleet thing kinda goes out the window. Ford may have the least powerful motor of all the trucks lately. But it does offer something the japs dont last I checked. The abliity to buy a bare bones full size truck for work for under 15k.

My dad has an 05 Toyota Tacoma Pre-Runner company truck. Its not even fully loaded but it as a lot of stuff, and it was damn near 30k that I remember, and thats just a mid size truck