well i hope it doesnt all go to nascar like nissan ect but good luck toyota dont fuck up

 

people think just because they work for nascar they have 3 teeth and a mullet and go to discount auto for their parts

 

Toyota in NASCAR is like having Strippers in Church the 2 just don't mix well

 

Why the hell are they going to put a rice burner in nascar when its an american sport. kind of like how NOPI is for imports and NHRA is for american cars

 

yeah because all I see driving on the roads is Toyotas.

Whatev, you guys are whining like bitches cause Toyota never built a v8 pushrod engine and therefore it shouldn't be allowed to run in NASCAR. Like ANYTHING I see at the Daytona 500 resembles anything close to what I can buy at the showroom. V8 Monte Carlo. HAHAH, they should have but the didn't.

I would hope to god anyone that is pushing that kind of HP/Weight ratio could make a car run 200mph all day. Shit, Mustang Cobras and my 96hp bike will damn near do that and you can buy them at the dealerships. I don't see what's so impressive. Any car with that kind of HP/Weight ratio and the right gearing could do that an more all day.

 

http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/n....cfm/id/38642/

insert foot in mouth.

not exactly nascar spec, but you get the idea

 

I get a kick out of you lumping everyone in this thread together and crediting them with the opinions stated by ONE person. Then accusing them of "whining like bitches?" Must suck to be a ricer........

You really really really have no idea what you are talking about, do you? Do you know anything about the rules concerning things like compression ratio, cubic inch limit, cam lift limits, the fact that they are running a flat tappet camshaft, and then they do it all afternoon without the motor disintegrating? The horsepower they get out of those motors with the rules, and then a restricter plate is absolutely amazing. But I know, it's a V-8, they're easy to make horsepower with Mustang cobras have 32 valves, a hydraulic roller cam, AND forced induction. All of which are not allowed in NASCAR, plus they don't run 200 mph. Bikes have no business in the conversation at all, so I'll just leave that one alone. If you would get over yourself and take some time to learn a little, you would realize what a ridiculous statement that was and how impressive the numbers are given the rules they have to work with.......

 

foot in mouth, but it wasn't till now that they developed it. Anyways, yeah BBB, I'm a ricer If yanking the motor and having it rebuilt with forged internals, ported head, full 'race' balanced, and completely fabricating a turbo system from scrap makes me a "ricer" then I guess I am. While we're stereotyping, it must suck to be 80 yrs old and migrate back and forth across the country twice a year. /offtopic

All I am trying to say is who REALLY cares if Toyota, Nissan or whoev enters NASCAR? Do YOU really care? Is it going to effect your livelyhood? What exactly are the specs of these engines? How many CFMs are their carbs allowed to flow? What is the gear ratio of their transmissions? And why Don't bikes belong in this discussion? Because they have two wheels? Because somehow the factory engineers at Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki have figured a way of making 150hp go near the 200mph mark and do it ALL AFTERNOON. They are carbed and they don't use forced unduction. My point is you take ANY vehicle with the HP/Weight ratio that these guys have and gear it right and your set. Granted, making the HP needed to do it is a feat in itself using 20 yr old technology and yes i understand the difficulty of making a lot of horsepower without forced induction. But in a way they are using forced induction. How much extra air are they funneling into the engine by reaching speeds that high. I think its pretty similar to the scramjet or whatever its called, the faster you go the more air you can send to the engine the more power you can make.

Whatev, I've wasted enough time on this topic, in the end NASCAR is still BORING and sees way too much airtime.

 

NASCAR motors are a testament to what can be done with pushrods, for sure. I just think the series is boring and irrelevant.

Since these fantasy machines have nothing in common with anything except other NASCAR racers, who cares if Toyota wants to waste time and money driving in circles with the rest of them? Yeah, NASCAR is an "American sport," but it's about competition. If Toyota in NASCAR bothers you so much, just say "I hate the Japanese." That's what you really want to say, after all, isn't it?

IMHO, NASCAR is a bloated dinosoar who's days are numbered. They need to find a better way to breathe life into the series than running a "Camry."

 

Boy, that one went right over your head.