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Originally Posted by Scott
Oh shit I need to go find my post from a year or so ago saying this was coming and everyone called me crazy ! Money talks and NASCAR needs to add to its fan base that is starting to come apart.
You can count on Nissan coming, they are already lining things up to get into truck big time.
You can count on Nissan coming, they are already lining things up to get into truck big time.
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Originally Posted by Frankie Boy
I heard this on the radio the other day. They required Toyota to make a pushrod, OHV, V8 engine, since they only have DOHC V8's, just to compete. NASCAR - National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing. What is stock about a company making an engine specifically for racing in NASCAR; moreover, can somebody show me any year in which a Camry came stock with a V8 at all? I'm glad I'm not a NASCAR fan, but if Toyota ever makes it into the NHRA, I'm officially done with motorsports all together.
does the ford fusion come with a v-8? what about the taurus?
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Toyota names first three Nextel Cup teams
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CONCORD, N.C. -- The three teams that will field the first Toyota Camrys in NASCAR's top series include an old hand at Cup racing, a two-time Daytona 500 winner -- and an energy drink.
Bill Davis Racing, Michael Waltrip Racing and all-new Team Red Bull were named Tuesday night as the first teams to run Toyotas in Nextel Cup and Busch Series races starting in 2007. The Japanese automaker is the first foreign manufacturer since the 1950s to supply cars for NASCAR's top series.
Michael Waltrip, who currently drives for Bill Davis Racing, will become an owner/driver in 2007. No driver has been named for Waltrip's second car.
"I never thought I would be a car owner in the Cup series," he said Tuesday night. "But then I thought, if I can plug into this, I can go race with these guys. ... Now I've got cars. I can race these people."
Bill Davis Racing will have to replace Waltrip next year to drive its second car; Davis said the team's other driver, Dave Blaney, would drive the Toyota in 2007.
The Red Bull team will also field two cars, with the drivers to be named later.
Bill Davis Racing has been a regular competitor in the NASCAR Cup Series since 1993, while Michael Waltrip Racing has been primarily involved in the Busch Series. Team Red Bull is new to Cup, although the company has been heavily involved in worldwide motorsports.
"Based on our motorsports experience, we know the importance of working with experienced teams and partners," said Jim Aust, vice president of Toyota Motorsports and president and CEO of Toyota Racing Development, U.S.A. "We have developed excellent relationships with Bill Davis and the Waltrip family and look forward to developing a similar relationship with the Red Bull team as Toyota joins one of the world's most competitive racing series."
Toyota began competing in NASCAR in the 2000 Goody's Dash Series and for the past two years has raced in the NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series.
"The response to Toyota's involvement in the Craftsman Truck Series has been very positive, and we look forward to building on that acceptance at the next levels," said Kim McCullough, corporate manager of marketing communications for Toyota Motorsports.
Bill Davis has been involved in NASCAR competition for 18 years and established a relationship with Toyota by fielding three Tundra trucks in the Craftsman series in 2004.
Waltrip, a two-time Daytona 500 winner, formed his own race team nearly a decade ago in Sherrills Ford, N.C. Established primarily as a Busch Series team, the team began fielding cars in the Cup Series on a limited basis the past few years.
Team Red Bull will be based in Mooresville, N.C., and stock car veteran Marty Gaunt will serve as the team's general manager.
source: http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/s...=wc&id=2304915
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CONCORD, N.C. -- The three teams that will field the first Toyota Camrys in NASCAR's top series include an old hand at Cup racing, a two-time Daytona 500 winner -- and an energy drink.
Bill Davis Racing, Michael Waltrip Racing and all-new Team Red Bull were named Tuesday night as the first teams to run Toyotas in Nextel Cup and Busch Series races starting in 2007. The Japanese automaker is the first foreign manufacturer since the 1950s to supply cars for NASCAR's top series.
Michael Waltrip, who currently drives for Bill Davis Racing, will become an owner/driver in 2007. No driver has been named for Waltrip's second car.
"I never thought I would be a car owner in the Cup series," he said Tuesday night. "But then I thought, if I can plug into this, I can go race with these guys. ... Now I've got cars. I can race these people."
Bill Davis Racing will have to replace Waltrip next year to drive its second car; Davis said the team's other driver, Dave Blaney, would drive the Toyota in 2007.
The Red Bull team will also field two cars, with the drivers to be named later.
Bill Davis Racing has been a regular competitor in the NASCAR Cup Series since 1993, while Michael Waltrip Racing has been primarily involved in the Busch Series. Team Red Bull is new to Cup, although the company has been heavily involved in worldwide motorsports.
"Based on our motorsports experience, we know the importance of working with experienced teams and partners," said Jim Aust, vice president of Toyota Motorsports and president and CEO of Toyota Racing Development, U.S.A. "We have developed excellent relationships with Bill Davis and the Waltrip family and look forward to developing a similar relationship with the Red Bull team as Toyota joins one of the world's most competitive racing series."
Toyota began competing in NASCAR in the 2000 Goody's Dash Series and for the past two years has raced in the NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series.
"The response to Toyota's involvement in the Craftsman Truck Series has been very positive, and we look forward to building on that acceptance at the next levels," said Kim McCullough, corporate manager of marketing communications for Toyota Motorsports.
Bill Davis has been involved in NASCAR competition for 18 years and established a relationship with Toyota by fielding three Tundra trucks in the Craftsman series in 2004.
Waltrip, a two-time Daytona 500 winner, formed his own race team nearly a decade ago in Sherrills Ford, N.C. Established primarily as a Busch Series team, the team began fielding cars in the Cup Series on a limited basis the past few years.
Team Red Bull will be based in Mooresville, N.C., and stock car veteran Marty Gaunt will serve as the team's general manager.
source: http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/s...=wc&id=2304915
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Toyota to run in Nextel Cup starting in 2007
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CONCORD, N.C. -- Toyota is planning to move up to NASCAR's top two stock car series and not everybody is happy about it.
The Japanese automaker, which has competed in NASCAR's Craftsman Truck Series the past two seasons, announced Monday it will also run its Camry brand in both the Nextel Cup and Busch Series in 2007.
With Toyota joining NASCAR in 2007, would you be less likely to root for your favorite driver if he drove a foreign make?
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NASCAR chairman Brian France gave his blessing to Toyota, telling more than 200 reporters taking part in the first day of the annual preseason media tour "Toyota has proven in the truck series it can be a great partner. NASCAR offered them the best opportunity to build their presence in racing in North America and we're glad they are here."
Toyota will become the first foreign competitor in NASCAR's top series since Jaguar ran in several races in the 1950s.
Team owner Jack Roush, who runs cars in each of the three top NASCAR series and whose drivers have won two of the last three Cup titles, offered a warning about Toyota's move up.
"If NASCAR manages to get in front of Toyota and tell them what they want to do and enforce it, they'll be the first sanctioning body that ever did that," said Roush, whose team runs Fords. "I'll watch with some interest, I'd like to say from a safe distance, but my distance is not far enough to be safe."
Toyota, which is becoming increasingly successful in the U.S. even as General Motors and Ford struggle, has previously been involved in American sports car racing and open-wheel racing. The company has been known in the past for inflating the cost of racing with its free spending, sometimes dominating the series and having a major effect on the rules before leaving for greener pastures.
Toyota also competes in Formula One and reportedly has a budget of $400 million a year.
"I'm concerned," said team owner Ray Evernham, whose team will run Dodges in all three of NASCAR's top series in 2006. "But NASCAR has to make sure that they keep a handle on it because, if (Toyota) has got a billion dollars to spend, they're going to wipe us out.
"If you can still win a championship on 20 million [dollars]and somebody else is spending 50 [million dollars], it doesn't matter. But, if it takes 50 [million dollars] to win a championship, you're done. So, NASCAR, more than ever, has to police things. There's a lot of work to do on the competition side.
"NASCAR has done a great job branding, a great job marketing, helping everyone with business," Evernham added. "But, right now, it's time to focus on what competition's going to be five years from now."
In the truck series, Toyota brought in a costly factory team approach, making quick inroads by producing the engines and chassis for all of its teams.
Toyota official Dave Illingworth said that will not be the case in Cup and Busch.
"There will be no Toyota branded teams or cars," he said. "Teams will bring their own sponsorship and we will provide only technical support, much as the other manufacturers in those series have done in the past."
France said he believes Toyota, which will also continue to compete in trucks, will approach the Cup and Busch in the proper way.
"They recognize that (centralizing their teams) wasn't how NASCAR (works) and wasn't going to be in their best interest in the future," France said.
Roush hopes that is the way it really works out once Toyota becomes established in Cup and Busch.
"But they operated their truck teams as one program and made the team owners just name owners only in order to justify what they were doing," he said. "But they have the same cars and the same engines and the same technology and wound up ruling that thing with pretty much of an iron hand.
"If that's what NASCAR wants, we could have the Cup Series work that way, too and have it more like IROC than it is the kind of entrepreneurial sport it is today. But I don't think that's where it will go. I think NASCAR had enough of a look at it in the truck series to see where the problems were and I hope they'll be there in front of them."
No teams or drivers were named Monday by Toyota, but the company is expected to announced Tuesday at least part of its lineup. Bill Davis Racing and a new team co-owned by Michael Waltrip and Doug Bawel, president of Jasper Engines, are expected to be among those named.
But Greg Biffle, who drives for Roush and finished second to 2005 Cup champion Tony Stewart, doesn't care who Toyota aligns with.
"It doesn't bother me any," he said. "It's free enterprise. C'mon, bring your best stuff."
source: http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/s...=wc&id=2302857
i like what Biffle says at the end of this article
Associated Press
CONCORD, N.C. -- Toyota is planning to move up to NASCAR's top two stock car series and not everybody is happy about it.
The Japanese automaker, which has competed in NASCAR's Craftsman Truck Series the past two seasons, announced Monday it will also run its Camry brand in both the Nextel Cup and Busch Series in 2007.
With Toyota joining NASCAR in 2007, would you be less likely to root for your favorite driver if he drove a foreign make?YesNo
NASCAR chairman Brian France gave his blessing to Toyota, telling more than 200 reporters taking part in the first day of the annual preseason media tour "Toyota has proven in the truck series it can be a great partner. NASCAR offered them the best opportunity to build their presence in racing in North America and we're glad they are here."
Toyota will become the first foreign competitor in NASCAR's top series since Jaguar ran in several races in the 1950s.
Team owner Jack Roush, who runs cars in each of the three top NASCAR series and whose drivers have won two of the last three Cup titles, offered a warning about Toyota's move up.
"If NASCAR manages to get in front of Toyota and tell them what they want to do and enforce it, they'll be the first sanctioning body that ever did that," said Roush, whose team runs Fords. "I'll watch with some interest, I'd like to say from a safe distance, but my distance is not far enough to be safe."
Toyota, which is becoming increasingly successful in the U.S. even as General Motors and Ford struggle, has previously been involved in American sports car racing and open-wheel racing. The company has been known in the past for inflating the cost of racing with its free spending, sometimes dominating the series and having a major effect on the rules before leaving for greener pastures.
Toyota also competes in Formula One and reportedly has a budget of $400 million a year.
"I'm concerned," said team owner Ray Evernham, whose team will run Dodges in all three of NASCAR's top series in 2006. "But NASCAR has to make sure that they keep a handle on it because, if (Toyota) has got a billion dollars to spend, they're going to wipe us out.
"If you can still win a championship on 20 million [dollars]and somebody else is spending 50 [million dollars], it doesn't matter. But, if it takes 50 [million dollars] to win a championship, you're done. So, NASCAR, more than ever, has to police things. There's a lot of work to do on the competition side.
"NASCAR has done a great job branding, a great job marketing, helping everyone with business," Evernham added. "But, right now, it's time to focus on what competition's going to be five years from now."
In the truck series, Toyota brought in a costly factory team approach, making quick inroads by producing the engines and chassis for all of its teams.
Toyota official Dave Illingworth said that will not be the case in Cup and Busch.
"There will be no Toyota branded teams or cars," he said. "Teams will bring their own sponsorship and we will provide only technical support, much as the other manufacturers in those series have done in the past."
France said he believes Toyota, which will also continue to compete in trucks, will approach the Cup and Busch in the proper way.
"They recognize that (centralizing their teams) wasn't how NASCAR (works) and wasn't going to be in their best interest in the future," France said.
Roush hopes that is the way it really works out once Toyota becomes established in Cup and Busch.
"But they operated their truck teams as one program and made the team owners just name owners only in order to justify what they were doing," he said. "But they have the same cars and the same engines and the same technology and wound up ruling that thing with pretty much of an iron hand.
"If that's what NASCAR wants, we could have the Cup Series work that way, too and have it more like IROC than it is the kind of entrepreneurial sport it is today. But I don't think that's where it will go. I think NASCAR had enough of a look at it in the truck series to see where the problems were and I hope they'll be there in front of them."
No teams or drivers were named Monday by Toyota, but the company is expected to announced Tuesday at least part of its lineup. Bill Davis Racing and a new team co-owned by Michael Waltrip and Doug Bawel, president of Jasper Engines, are expected to be among those named.
But Greg Biffle, who drives for Roush and finished second to 2005 Cup champion Tony Stewart, doesn't care who Toyota aligns with.
"It doesn't bother me any," he said. "It's free enterprise. C'mon, bring your best stuff."
source: http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/news/s...=wc&id=2302857
i like what Biffle says at the end of this article
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Originally Posted by B
does the ford fusion come with a v-8? what about the taurus?
At least, at one point in time, Ford did make a RWD, pushrod, OHV V8. Toyota, to my knowledge, never has.
I seriously don't remember the Toyota car at the Nationals last year. I'm so done with motorsports.
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Originally Posted by Orion ZyGarian
American companies arent doing so well right now...so neither will our economy. Forget the Chinese's "Cherry" cars that will severely hurt American car market...right now GM is in serious shit. GM is the biggest company in the world, and they are surely plummiting right now...if they go under think of all the jobs and monetary circulation that will be hindered.
This is why as soon as I get into college and finish my project car, I'll start saving right away. Our economy could quite easily fall into another Depression from where it is now, and when I'll actually be making enough to be able to live off of it and put some away is when I'll start doing so. 403s ftw!
Stick with what stays strong...Toyota is making more money than it knows what to do with, so if I stick with them, theres much less of a chance of losing it all. I honestly dont know how long I want to stay in the U.S. because of how unstable our economy is
This is why as soon as I get into college and finish my project car, I'll start saving right away. Our economy could quite easily fall into another Depression from where it is now, and when I'll actually be making enough to be able to live off of it and put some away is when I'll start doing so. 403s ftw!
Stick with what stays strong...Toyota is making more money than it knows what to do with, so if I stick with them, theres much less of a chance of losing it all. I honestly dont know how long I want to stay in the U.S. because of how unstable our economy is
Uh I beg to differ, the chryler group is the only one to post any kind of a gain among the big 3. Well unless Toyota can make a change in the quality of their engine (01-recent) to make it stop freezing up at 30k miles, they're in some trouble of their own. Funny how you never hear about though, and that's probably because they dish out a butt load of money to make sure it stays off front page headlines, just like their gonna pay out a butt load of money to all their race teams.
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hahahaha, what a bunch of whiney ass fags. "OMG, the Japs are coming and they're ruining it for everyone!" 
Pussies. The domestic guys need to step their game up a notch cause they know damn well the japs are gonna walk all over them.
PS: Just be glad none the europeans have caught onto this NASCAR crap. They're engineers would slaughter everyone on the track. NASCAR=gay so who cares. Im so sick of turning on SpeedVision to see NASCAR Trackside, NASCAR Garage, NASCAR At The Gay Bar, etc etc.
Pussies. The domestic guys need to step their game up a notch cause they know damn well the japs are gonna walk all over them. PS: Just be glad none the europeans have caught onto this NASCAR crap. They're engineers would slaughter everyone on the track. NASCAR=gay so who cares. Im so sick of turning on SpeedVision to see NASCAR Trackside, NASCAR Garage, NASCAR At The Gay Bar, etc etc.
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Originally Posted by Orion ZyGarian
American companies arent doing so well right now...so neither will our economy. Forget the Chinese's "Cherry" cars that will severely hurt American car market...right now GM is in serious shit. GM is the biggest company in the world, and they are surely plummiting right now...if they go under think of all the jobs and monetary circulation that will be hindered.
This is why as soon as I get into college and finish my project car, I'll start saving right away. Our economy could quite easily fall into another Depression from where it is now, and when I'll actually be making enough to be able to live off of it and put some away is when I'll start doing so. 403s ftw!
Stick with what stays strong...Toyota is making more money than it knows what to do with, so if I stick with them, theres much less of a chance of losing it all. I honestly dont know how long I want to stay in the U.S. because of how unstable our economy is
American companies arent doing so well right now...so neither will our economy. Forget the Chinese's "Cherry" cars that will severely hurt American car market...right now GM is in serious shit. GM is the biggest company in the world, and they are surely plummiting right now...if they go under think of all the jobs and monetary circulation that will be hindered.
This is why as soon as I get into college and finish my project car, I'll start saving right away. Our economy could quite easily fall into another Depression from where it is now, and when I'll actually be making enough to be able to live off of it and put some away is when I'll start doing so. 403s ftw!
Stick with what stays strong...Toyota is making more money than it knows what to do with, so if I stick with them, theres much less of a chance of losing it all. I honestly dont know how long I want to stay in the U.S. because of how unstable our economy is
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Originally Posted by TNathe
hahahaha, what a bunch of whiney ass fags. "OMG, the Japs are coming and they're ruining it for everyone!" Pussies. The domestic guys need to step their game up a notch cause they know damn well the japs are gonna walk all over them.
Pussies. The domestic guys need to step their game up a notch cause they know damn well the japs are gonna walk all over them.
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I thought NASCAR has sucked anyways, since they banned the HEMI, now it sucks even more, take the S in the name and make it that STOCK! If a company can produce a naturally aspirated motor and put it in a car and sell it to the public, then it should be allowed. If Toyota wants to develop a specially designed motor just for NASCAR then so be it, NASCAR had just better let everyone else do the same. Equallity that's all I'm preaching.
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