Its funny, because it almost seems like you guys are stating the arguement for my point, but stepping right over the conclusion.

You don't see many 20 year old econoboxes on the road today because they're econoboxes. I'll bet without searching for any studies or graphs on google that more people take better care of their high end expensive/nice/fast cars than do with their econoboxes. Thats what you get an econobox for, to drive that fucker into the ground and not worry about it. What if you've got a Supra, and the engine blows? Drop a 2-JZ-DRMQ (I don't know all these fucking acronyms you people have somehow memorized, but you get the idea) into it. Say your D16 in your honda blows up, you throw the car away like yesterdays garbage. Who'se to say the Honda wouldn't be running 20 years from now if you kept up on it like you do the Supra? They target a different crowd, those econoboxes, and those differnt crowds beat on their cars differently.

Oh, and I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but imports were more reliable than domestics up until recently. If anyone wants to debate that I'll go scrounge up some documents and link them.

 

im sorry but your wrong...a d16 is cheap as a 56th street hooker. if your d16 blows up, you spend one night to put another one back in

 

Because even 50% of Civic owners know how to replace a D16, right?

Mechanics will assrape you on labor for an engine swap.

 

Exactly. I was going to say it before you said it. You think the 16 year old high school girl knows how to put a new LMNOP25 in her car? Nope.

 

was this a play on our "codes" lol better than all those damn domestic numbers....302..305..331..352.....i mean...seriously WHAT THE FUCK

 

They're the size, in cubic inches, of the displacement. No model number, no build code, just size in cubic inches. It's really simple, for example, a 327 is 327 cubic inches of displacement. What the hell is a 2JZ?

 

EXACTLY. That's why I love Hondas so much. If I can't afford my dream car (or to drive it), I grab a used Honda so I can beat the piss out of it and change the gas station brand oil every 20K miles and it will still keep going. Won't catch me doing any $500 repairs to the old dogs, though.

EXACTLY. This is why many domestic names, like Cavalier, Neon, Lumina, etc. are being shaved off. The domestics have grown up and caught up, and just about anything outside of Italy can break the 200K mile mark easily nowadays.

I agree, it's much easier to keep up with 305, 350, 427, 454, 632, etc. than to remember engine codes telling you what the company decided to name it, and all sorts of abbreviations for cam count and fuel delivery. The 2JZ GTE (2nd gen, JZ family, DOHC (from G, WTF?), Turbocharged with Electronic FI)
could have easily been called the "183 turbo," or "3000 turbo" for metric, and it'd be easy to tell what it was.

And an engine replacement on an old car can seriously be done in a half hour without pneumatic tools, and anybody with a hoist can do it, so don't even try to start that "just replace the D16 in a night" argument.

 

its just what ever you use to

 

god damn I love you Frank.

 

I believe the reason you don't see too many 70's Corolla's around today is because, well, I don't think there were that many to begin with in America.