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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 06:47 AM
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My father swears by Ford and Toyota...and I will admit that Ford products bost a higher build quality than GM. Between reading reviews and actually driving various GM models, almost all of them use cheap plastic interior parts (at least until you get into the $30k+ range). Ford vehicles use better materials and everything fits tighter together. Before my Cavy, I had a 97 Sable, it was slow, but the interior was better overall....everything just seemed to fit together better...and between the Cavy, Impala, Blazer, and Malibu that I've driven....nothing quite compares.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 4drwhore
This statement is just ignorant cause obviously you don't know enough about F-Bodies to make a real statement. Have you ever owned one? Driven one? Modified one?

Yea you are right. A 3300lb n/a car that runs 13.2 @ 108 on 93octane and stock street radial tires(no drag radials) stock off the show room floor is just a piece of shit. I mean ford has been doing that since.... well we won't go there
Wow, you are stupid, aren't you? Look at my cars, genius, I OWN one, and I've worked on the V6s, V8s, yadda yadda. Anyways, now where did you state that is ISN'T a peice of shit? It can do the 1/4 in the 9s stock for all I care, but that doesn't mean its not a PEICE OF SHIT. Seriously, you've been here for a while it seems, but this was one of the dumbest fucking replies I've ever read. You sound like a 16 year old tool who'se been watching too much F&F. "OH ITS FAST ITS FAST YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT!" Jesus, man, go do some research then get back to me - I don't mean to flame you but seriously that was the dumbest arguement I've seen in a while.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 06:19 PM
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Oh, and GM uses the strangest selection of bolts and nuts. With my car, I use a 10, 12, 14 or 17mm socket for 95 percent of the bolts on the car. The other small minority are very large metric sizes like 19, 21, or 24, and the only standard bolts on the car are a handful in the seatbelt system, which was made in America.

On the firebird, there are 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, and 19 mm bolts/nuts, just to name the ones I've run into today, and also a wide range of standard bolts, 1/2", 5/8", 3/4", 11/16", and on and on and on. Sometimes, they use a metric size for a bolt, and a standard size for the nut that goes on that bolt! There's also hex head bolts, torx bolts, and other oddball fasteners in places that just don't make any sense.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jordan Y.
On the firebird, there are 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, and 19 mm bolts/nuts, just to name the ones I've run into today, and also a wide range of standard bolts, 1/2", 5/8", 3/4", 11/16", and on and on and on. Sometimes, they use a metric size for a bolt, and a standard size for the nut that goes on that bolt! There's also hex head bolts, torx bolts, and other oddball fasteners in places that just don't make any sense.
My entire interior is torx, except for the seat bolts its rediculous.
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jordan Y.
Oh, and GM uses the strangest selection of bolts and nuts. With my car, I use a 10, 12, 14 or 17mm socket for 95 percent of the bolts on the car. The other small minority are very large metric sizes like 19, 21, or 24, and the only standard bolts on the car are a handful in the seatbelt system, which was made in America.

On the firebird, there are 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, and 19 mm bolts/nuts, just to name the ones I've run into today, and also a wide range of standard bolts, 1/2", 5/8", 3/4", 11/16", and on and on and on. Sometimes, they use a metric size for a bolt, and a standard size for the nut that goes on that bolt! There's also hex head bolts, torx bolts, and other oddball fasteners in places that just don't make any sense.

+1. Its fun playing pick and choose with the bolts while you're putting everything back together as you attempt to lean 3 feet over the front bumper and grab at the engine halfway under the dash
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Old Apr 14, 2005 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by John
I've driven a bunch of them. The interior is cheap feeling plastic everywhere, and I swear they used folded ironing boards for seats. So what, its got a big motor, whoopee do. Doesn't give you a whole lot else for the money. I guess if all you like is drag racing, its a great car.

BTW, the new Mustang GT runs 13.5 in the quarter - on 87 octane.
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 10:00 AM
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this is all bullshit i'll put it this way go to a junk yard and look how many fords there are then look how many chevys ( lot more fords and peace of shit imports than chevys huh?)
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 10:02 AM
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oh and dont let the name fool you this is my girls sn so dont even try that shit
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Old Jul 17, 2005 | 10:13 AM
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American MARKET SUCKS period!!! Why do you think there offering Family plan and not the foreign leaders!!!
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