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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 02:12 AM
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Hi:

Maybe take a look at this Viper Club thread?

http://vca2.viperclub.org/forums/sho...c=1&PHPSESSID=

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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 03:18 AM
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CVT didn't catch on yet because, as far as I remember, it can't handle much in the way of power yet.

And I like shifting.
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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 04:59 AM
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Originally posted by ZeroShift
Hi:

Maybe take a look at this Viper Club thread?

http://vca2.viperclub.org/forums/sho...c=1&PHPSESSID=

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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 05:18 AM
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Is it just me or isn't it a Tremec T5 and a Borg and Warner T56, unlike switched around like stated on the site. Seems like a cool idea though.
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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 05:29 AM
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ZeroShift means you can carry on shifting - you just don't need to use the clutch pedal when you do it.

The shift quality is "I can't feel it" ...which is the kind of shift that, as a racer, I would always aspire to achieve. If you're upshifting and hanging the tail the least disturbance to the wheels the better. ZeroShift = no disturbance.

You still control when you want to shift (and which gear you want when you want), the ZeroShift FlatLiner system sorts out the clutch/and gas which - for downshifts - includes the blip. Up the box you just hear a very fast change in engine note. Even on drive-by shifts like this turn heads because there's no manual 'pause' or auto 'slur'. It turns heads for the right reason: it sounds cool in a loud car. CVT would just sound weird.

Acceleration in a quick car is a couple of seconds of strong 'g' interrupted by a shift then another burst of 'g'. The more powerful the car, the greater the % of the 0-100 time spent in pauses (not least because big power = big synchro = slow shift). ZeroShift gets rid of the pauses to make the strong 'g' last all the way until wind resistance and stiffer ratios cause it to reduce.
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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 05:32 AM
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Originally posted by 4drwhore
Is it just me or isn't it a Tremec T5 and a Borg and Warner T56, unlike switched around like stated on the site. Seems like a cool idea though.
The T5 was originally a Borg Warner. The design was acquired by Tremec. The T56 to my knowledge has always been a Tremec. Both are Tremec products now.
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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 05:38 AM
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I'll take a lenco instead, thanks anyways. Seems this would take alot of fun out of racing. I mean it would be good for the people who do bracket racing but alot of the part of racing is shifting. It takes more of a driver to run low 11s in a manual 5speed car then it does a guy with the same everything and just an automatic with a stall. Seems good but I guess I'll just stick with the old proven method of having a manual car. Something about the actions of pushing in the clutch and slamming the gears that makes driving more fun. More power to you guys though.

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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 05:59 AM
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Originally posted by 4drwhore
I'll take a lenco instead, thanks anyways. Seems this would take alot of fun out of racing. I mean it would be good for the people who do bracket racing but alot of the part of racing is shifting. It takes more of a driver to run low 11s in a manual 5speed car then it does a guy with the same everything and just an automatic with a stall. Seems good but I guess I'll just stick with the old proven method of having a manual car. Something about the actions of pushing in the clutch and slamming the gears that makes driving more fun. More power to you guys though.
Each to their own but if you prefer shifting over autos, why would you prefer a Lenco over a ZeroShift?

A ZeroShift box allows you to launch on the clutch pedal but shift stick-only once moving. Quick manual guys can do clutchless powershifts even with synchro boxes (and dog boxes with a rev-limiter cut) although the box's synchro life is somewhat abbreviated.

ZeroShift also provides the option to delete the clutch pedal with a system called FromZero. If you get your fun from the skill of feeding in clutch/power yourself, you would not bother with this but if your fun comes from winning, FromZero is real fun...
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Old Aug 19, 2004 | 06:07 AM
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Originally posted by ZeroShift
ZeroShift means you can carry on shifting - you just don't need to use the clutch pedal when you do it.
Wow, sounds like fun. You mean I don't need (get) to rev match anymore? Great, it'll be just like my Xbox.
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