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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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just wondering what size fuel pump would you guys reccomend?
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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Krex
just wondering what size fuel pump would you guys reccomend?
not necessarily the pump, i personally think your injectors are way too small

i would get at least a 30 or 36lb injector, nice thing is with the cnl meter you can just switch the tube's so you don't need a whole new meter
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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve B
not necessarily the pump, i personally think your injectors are way too small

i would get at least a 30 or 36lb injector, nice thing is with the cnl meter you can just switch the tube's so you don't need a whole new meter

whats wrong with the 24#s? they'll easily support over 300hp.
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Old Mar 2, 2007 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by $hawn
whats wrong with the 24#s? they'll easily support over 300hp.
they may be maxed out at 100% duty, that combo should make more than 300, maybe not, i don't see a datalog.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Krex
Heres a mod list. with everything listed below how much hp do you think you shuold get out of a 331 witht the following mod list?

Factory block with a main girdle Bored to 331
4340 steel crank
Eagle H beam rod
JE pistons
Tfs twisted wedge heads
Stage 3-port work
Victor 5.0 intake manifold
Stage 3-port work
ford racing x303 cam (looking for better cam)
Crane gold 1.6 rocker arms
Canton oil pan
24lbs injectors
75mm tb
powdercoated valve covers
Aeromotive fuel pressure regulator
3.73 gears
BBK longtube headers
BBK H-pipe with 2 1/2in exhaust wiht flowmaster 1 chambers (hatem)
CnL mass air flow sensor and inlet tube
McCloud Clutch

I know a few guys running the victor 5.0, I have one sittin on my garage floor needing a home since I decided to go carb again. They are all running a minimum of 42lb injectors a 75mm tb and MAF, 1.7 RR's and a 255 pump. A few are even running 50's with 80mm TB and MAF. I agree with Steve your a bit lean. You should be knocking on the 400rwhp door with an upgraded fuel system. And IMO ford motorsport cams are fucking garbage.... get in touch with either of the big cam guys (Comp, Crane, Lunati, etc.) and tell them what your doing and they can tell you what off the shelf cam to run or give you a custom grind. Don't skimp on the cam... if you do you will be where you are now. I was running an off the shelf cam in my old 393 and it only put 408 to the wheels.... called lunati and got a custom cam and put down 500 to the wheels... it was stupid how much of a difference it made.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 03:05 AM
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with stage 3 tfs heads and a victor efi manifold you're going to have to spin the engine 7500 to make power. that cam, all though not bad, is just dead in the water at those rpm's.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 06:12 AM
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Still, it is a 302 with 1/4 inch stroke and ported TW heads. I do think a custom cam will wake the motor up.
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Old Mar 3, 2007 | 07:55 AM
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i was lookin at some comp cams and this is what i found. I found a write up about these cams, afr 185cc heads and just a few other things. and it made 455flywheel hp. it was carb though. Whether it be carb or efi does it really make a big difference? heres what i found about those cams and the heads. below that is the specs on the cams.
RPM


Torque


H.P.


2000
2500
3000
3500
4000
4500
5000
5500
6000
6100
6500
7000
7500


285
296
326
342
362
374
387
398
392
391
348
n/a
n/a
105
139
186
228
275
320
368
417
448
455
430
n/a
n/a
Dyno Test Criteria


Horsepower:
Engine:
Heads:
Compression:
Carburetor:
Ignition:
Cam:



Exhaust:
Fuel:
Manifold
455 HP
302ci
185cc AFR
10:1
650 cfm Speed Demon 84/87 Jets
MSD Digital 7, 36° Timing
Comp Cams Extreme Energy Hyd Roller 282 Cam, 565/574 232/240 @.050 with 1.6 Rockers, 112 Lobe Sep.
1 3/4
92 Octane
Victor Jr.


Brand:COMP CamsProduct Line:COMP Cams Xtreme Energy CamshaftsCam Style:Hydraulic roller tappetBasic Operating RPM Range:2,600-6,500 RPMIntake Duration at 050 inch Lift:232Exhaust Duration at 050 inch Lift:240Duration at 050 inch Lift:232 int./240 exh.Advertised Intake Duration:282Advertised Exhaust Duration:290Advertised Duration:282 int./290 exh.Intake Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio:0.565 in.Exhaust Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio:0.574 in.Valve Lift with Factory Rocker Arm Ratio:0.565 int./0.574 exh. liftLobe Separation (degrees):112Intake Valve Lash:0.000 in.Exhaust Valve Lash:0.000 in.Computer Controlled Compatible:YesGrind Number:FW XE282HR-12
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 04:57 AM
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So no tune yet, was it on a mustang or dynojet? Don't get all caught up in dyno numbers. Take it to the track and see what mph it runs.
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Old Mar 4, 2007 | 09:12 AM
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no tune yet, im waiting on the fuel pump to come in the mail so i can put that in see if that helps a little if not then ima go with a bigger injecter
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