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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 01:35 PM
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Since Mustangs produce so much torque right out of the box, I am surprised that some of you (and other 'stang owners) haven't given the whole drifting thing a try. Since a lot of, if not all of the JDM cars are highly modified so that they have the high TQ numbers needed to break loose and spin the tires to kingdom come, and the V8's of the American brand have a lot of torque to start with. I know it's a new thing here in the states, and new stuff, for some reason either scares people or they turn their backs on it all together, but I think it would be pretty awesome if a fleet of drifting Mustangs, Z28s, & T/A's went out and started to invade the Import dominated sport.
lots of people do burnouts, donuts, and stuff like that to show off anyways, why not do it for competition and fame and fortune..bla bla..?
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 01:50 PM
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Lots of Supra's get their asses handed to them in the 1/4 only because their peak power/tq is acheived at a higher RPM.
Mustangs and F-bodies make all their power at a lower RPM. That's just the nature of the America V8. Drag racing isn't a huge thing over-seas, in Japan and Europe as it is here, so they don't build their sports cars to go from point A to point B in a certain amount of time. Don't know if anyone has noticed, but , for example: the S2000's redline is close to 9000, and it makes its peak power from high 6k-8k. That's why they don't do well in the quarter, because they need more time to get their power down. It's not that they're weak, slow cars. If Mustangs were built to do nothing but road race, open track and that type of thing, or to Japanese/European specs, I guarantee you that they would have a higher redline, and they wouldn't reach peak numbers until around 6-7k rpm.
Different cultures have different ways of thinking and thus engineer things differently. In my opinion, the Japanese are far more advanced in the engineering dept. than we are.
Why not make a Mustang GT or Cobra with AWD? Why not build the motor to perform at higher RPM? Why does the car have to have all of it's balls at the low-end?


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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by Graves5.0
Lots of Supra's get their asses handed to them in the 1/4 only because their peak power/tq is acheived at a higher RPM.
Mustangs and F-bodies make all their power at a lower RPM. That's just the nature of the America V8. Drag racing isn't a huge thing over-seas, in Japan and Europe as it is here, so they don't build their sports cars to go from point A to point B in a certain amount of time. Don't know if anyone has noticed, but , for example: the S2000's redline is close to 9000, and it makes its peak power from high 6k-8k. That's why they don't do well in the quarter, because they need more time to get their power down. It's not that they're weak, slow cars. If Mustangs were built to do nothing but road race, open track and that type of thing, or to Japanese/European specs, I guarantee you that they would have a higher redline, and they wouldn't reach peak numbers until around 6-7k rpm.
Different cultures have different ways of thinking and thus engineer things differently. In my opinion, the Japanese are far more advanced in the engineering dept. than we are.
Why not make a Mustang GT or Cobra with AWD? Why not build the motor to perform at higher RPM? Why does the car have to have all of it's balls at the low-end?


Don't mean to babble.. certain subjects get me going.
Ever looked at a '96-'98 or '99 or '01 Cobras Dyno sheet?

Those cars still will kick the shit out of an N/A Supra and they make peak TQ at something like 6500 RPM's.
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by Graves5.0

Why not make a Mustang GT or Cobra with AWD? Why not build the motor to perform at higher RPM? Why does the car have to have all of it's balls at the low-end?
What for?
WTF for?
and Why TF not?
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 08:59 PM
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why not make a supra or any import that can compare to a mustang cost less than 30k ...........theres a good question ?


wheres all that money go ?? better sterio?
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 10:09 AM
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Originally posted by N20D5OH
Ever looked at a '96-'98 or '99 or '01 Cobras Dyno sheet?

Those cars still will kick the shit out of an N/A Supra and they make peak TQ at something like 6500 RPM's.
Putting a Cobra up against an N/A Supra is like racing a Cobra against a V6 Mustang. They aren't even in the same category, power wise, so of course the Cobra will kick the shit out of an N/A Supra. If the Supra were turboed or TT, the Supra will pull ahead.

The quality of the import is going to be a lot better, also.
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by Graves5.0
Putting a Cobra up against an N/A Supra is like racing a Cobra against a V6 Mustang. They aren't even in the same category, power wise, so of course the Cobra will kick the shit out of an N/A Supra. If the Supra were turboed or TT, the Supra will pull ahead.

The quality of the import is going to be a lot better, also.
Not if the Cobra was turbo'd or TT.
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Old Feb 18, 2004 | 07:20 PM
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It would probably make a lot more torque...that would be a good race.
I just came back from the track about half an hour ago...
no traction sucks.
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 03:48 AM
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Originally posted by Graves5.0
Putting a Cobra up against an N/A Supra is like racing a Cobra against a V6 Mustang. They aren't even in the same category, power wise, so of course the Cobra will kick the shit out of an N/A Supra. If the Supra were turboed or TT, the Supra will pull ahead.

The quality of the import is going to be a lot better, also.
or a bone stock 03! I want to see a TT supra stock pull away from an 03 cobra or shit, even a ls1 stock from any speed. When I had my WS6, I knew a guy who had a TT VR4 and I used to walk him crazy at the track and on the highway and he had some mods when I was bone stock down to the paper filter. But you do have very good points Graves5.0 about the true "drifting". I know that there is a hardcore group that does it out in California, but they have those beautiful roads that go up the mountains that they do it on, I think DR is popular down here b/c its a flat state so why not go in a straight line? lol
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 02:43 PM
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Yea, but just because there are no windy, hill type roads or whatever, doesn't mean you can't set up a course. The mountain up-hill/down-hill drifting is only a branch off of the sport. If we were in Colorado, would you all still drag race, or would you be into Rally, or drift..or maybe snowmobiles with pseudo-nitrous setups or some crap.
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