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The big question would be, " If it were a member of ACORN or SEIU that spanked BAMF's kid at school, would it be ok?" Otherwise, spanking is the only problem from a government institution that he seems to have a problem with.
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Just because I'm not a rank-n-file Republican doesn't mean I'm a rank-n-file Democrat.
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So, again, cite me something tangible. So far you've made broad sweeping generalizations which have amounted to little more than irrational fear due to being misinformed.
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Again, show me where in this bill it makes that possible and then we can talk. Until then you're just blowing hot air.
Here is your logic failure in this thread. You think the government will be able to tell doctors what they can and can't do. I have no idea why you think this or where you got this crazy idea, as this has never been so much as suggested in any piece of legislation I've studied. What the government can do is REFUSE TO PAY for a procedure, just like insurance companies can and do on very many occassions. So, tough shit, hope you have private insurance that will cover it, or can put up the money yourself. Wanna know the cool thing, though? The government won't drop you if you become too much of a 'liability' like regular insurance can and does.
You're slinging a lot of insults around in this thread. Telling me I have no idea what I'm talking about, common sense has all but left, etc. etc. I'd like to know just what makes you so much inherently intellectually superior to me. Do you have some kind of PhDs in political science, or in this case the medical field? Are you a politician or do you have a career in the political arena? Are you a lawyer who helps draft these laws? I mean, from your condescending demeanor I figure you have to be something pretty damn spiffy...because it just wouldn't make sense for an average Joe to come around touting his superiority over another average Joe without anything to back it up.
Here is your logic failure in this thread. You think the government will be able to tell doctors what they can and can't do. I have no idea why you think this or where you got this crazy idea, as this has never been so much as suggested in any piece of legislation I've studied. What the government can do is REFUSE TO PAY for a procedure, just like insurance companies can and do on very many occassions. So, tough shit, hope you have private insurance that will cover it, or can put up the money yourself. Wanna know the cool thing, though? The government won't drop you if you become too much of a 'liability' like regular insurance can and does.
You're slinging a lot of insults around in this thread. Telling me I have no idea what I'm talking about, common sense has all but left, etc. etc. I'd like to know just what makes you so much inherently intellectually superior to me. Do you have some kind of PhDs in political science, or in this case the medical field? Are you a politician or do you have a career in the political arena? Are you a lawyer who helps draft these laws? I mean, from your condescending demeanor I figure you have to be something pretty damn spiffy...because it just wouldn't make sense for an average Joe to come around touting his superiority over another average Joe without anything to back it up.
if you take what I say as an insult then thats not my problem.
Why do you have to see a written bill or law to think the government will or will not be corupt??? Thats were the loss of common sense comes to in play. Not on you personally but on this whole political situation. I love it that you think a person needs a PHD or be a lawyer (the biggest crooks on the planet) to be intelligent.
I guess you didn't read my complete post.......go back and read it again. The government currently does everything I stated with the medicaid program. WHAT MAKE YOU THINK THEY WON'T DO THIS WITH A PUBLIC HEALTHCARE PROGRAM??? is it just cause they say they won't?? If so your faith has blinded you to the fact our sysytem is full of crooks and liars.
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Except once the banks pay back the bailouts, the government no longer has a say in anything. This is evidenced, of course, by the banks who have paid back the loans being left alone to do as they please. Kinda like how if you take a loan from a private establishment, they get to set terms for the life of the loan. And once the loan is over all those terms dissapear.
So, again, cite me something tangible. So far you've made broad sweeping generalizations which have amounted to little more than irrational fear due to being misinformed.
So, again, cite me something tangible. So far you've made broad sweeping generalizations which have amounted to little more than irrational fear due to being misinformed.
Funneling dollars back into the TARP, rather than putting them in the Treasury's general coffer, has two advantages. For one, it keeps the money on hand in case banks need another bailout. That's a plus since it would be politically difficult for Geithner to ask Congress for more bailout money.
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Except once the banks pay back the bailouts, the government no longer has a say in anything. This is evidenced, of course, by the banks who have paid back the loans being left alone to do as they please. Kinda like how if you take a loan from a private establishment, they get to set terms for the life of the loan. And once the loan is over all those terms dissapear.
So, again, cite me something tangible. So far you've made broad sweeping generalizations which have amounted to little more than irrational fear due to being misinformed.
So, again, cite me something tangible. So far you've made broad sweeping generalizations which have amounted to little more than irrational fear due to being misinformed.
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The difference here is that while banks DO have the ability to set the terms of loan REPAYMENT, they don't have the ability to set terms on how the money is to be USED or how the business is RUN, which takes out the loan. The GOOBERMENT has not only set the terms of repayment, but also how the companies may USE the money, as well as how the companies are to be run.
Go into your bank and ask for an auto loan. then tell them you want to use that auto loan to buy a trampoline. They'll tell you that they don't make trampoline loans, and the auto loan is to be used for a car. Then, they'll further say that while you own the car, you are required by the terms of the loan to keep comprehensive insurance with minimum coverage limits on it. And they may also give a million and 1 other conditions of the loan.
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if you take what I say as an insult then thats not my problem.
Why do you have to see a written bill or law to think the government will or will not be corupt??? Thats were the loss of common sense comes to in play. Not on you personally but on this whole political situation. I love it that you think a person needs a PHD or be a lawyer (the biggest crooks on the planet) to be intelligent.
I guess you didn't read my complete post.......go back and read it again. The government currently does everything I stated with the medicaid program. WHAT MAKE YOU THINK THEY WON'T DO THIS WITH A PUBLIC HEALTHCARE PROGRAM??? is it just cause they say they won't?? If so your faith has blinded you to the fact our sysytem is full of crooks and liars.
Why do you have to see a written bill or law to think the government will or will not be corupt??? Thats were the loss of common sense comes to in play. Not on you personally but on this whole political situation. I love it that you think a person needs a PHD or be a lawyer (the biggest crooks on the planet) to be intelligent.
I guess you didn't read my complete post.......go back and read it again. The government currently does everything I stated with the medicaid program. WHAT MAKE YOU THINK THEY WON'T DO THIS WITH A PUBLIC HEALTHCARE PROGRAM??? is it just cause they say they won't?? If so your faith has blinded you to the fact our sysytem is full of crooks and liars.
I don't think a person needs to have a PhD or lawyer, but your previous posts had a very sarcastic and condescending demeanor. I was wondering if there was some actual reason you felt that you were so far above me intellectually, or if it was just the generic, "You're stupid if you don't agree with me" tendency people have.
Anyways, the government can't just go off willy nilly and do whatever they want. They have to draft legislation for it. For this reason, I ask you to show me where in any legislation, or even in any speeches, these things you people are talking about are so much as hinted at. I ask this knowing full-well that you won't find it. I'm not much for tinfoil hat conspiracy therories; if you have a problem with the plan I'd love to discuss it, but if your problem is based off of nothing except a Post Hoc Fallacy, I don't really have anything to say to you besides knowledge is power. Empower yourself.
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Thats just it....they haven't passed any legislation that deals with what I've spoken about. The medicaid system is out of control and the checks and balances that are suppose to be in place do nothing but hurt the welbeing of medicaid users. This is why I believe the federally run healthcare program will be a cluster fuck. The feds have a great way of taken a "well meaning" policy and totally fuck it up.
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