You realize government officials are on government healthcare, right?

And school costs aren't why doctor's bills are so high. They're so high because of malpractice insurance, and the fact that people are willing to pay a premium for their health.

 

Do you suppose I could opt in to that plan instead of the one on the table? I'm sure it would promote my general welfare, especially if they would throw in a Shelby GT 500 so I could drive to my office visits.

 

See this is were you realy don't know a damn thing and I'm glad somone answered this question just like you did.

My wife works for a doctor and has held every job in his office. from receptionist to medical assistant to billing clerk and currently runs the office so she knows what she's taliking about when it comes to this healthcare crap.
Imagine for a minute that you had to pass every bill that was PAID to you through the federal government. How fast do you think you would get paid. How would you like to have the federal government over see every procedure that you performed. How would you like it if you had to get some government hack to approve every procedure you performed. You might not think that this senerio is going to happen but mark my words, they currently do this when it comes to medicaid so why wouldn't they do it with a government run program.
There is no need for you to answer any of these questions unless you are either a doctor or you work in the medical field and can PROVE me wrong. The only PROOF is time itself......

 

and do youy realize that WE pay for there medical care for there whole life....even if they are impeached or removed from office. So how in the hell do these government hacks know anything about running an health insurance company. Most of these assclowns in office are lawyers.

 

No, there is a need to answer those questions...rather, not answer them, but point out your misconceptions.

1) I have done work for the government before and I've been paid on time. I've also done work for private companies and they've been slow to pay. Gee, who woulda thought?

2) You already have to pass EVERY procedure through your insurance company to make sure they'll accept it. Whats the difference if the guy works for the government or the insurance company? Rhetorical question, btw; there is none. There will be a list of approved procedures and confirmations needed for others, just like there is right now with your insurance company.

3) Unless you can show me where in the bill the government is given the authority to oversee these procedures, then you really don't have much of a leg to stand on besides your wife's omnipotent abilities.

 

Sure you could. Become an elected official.

I never said the bill they drafted was the right way to do things. I'm just saying, the idea beind a dual tiered healthcare system is sound.

 

Government run healthcare = government overseeing the procedures. You REALLY think that the gooberment will say "We want in on this", and sit back and let the doctors do as they please? I mean...REALLY? With as messed up as the gooberment is currently, I would think that an extinct dodo bird could see that this is a bad idea.

 

he realy has trust in the government doesn't he!!!! I'll give the state that California is in as a example of how well the liberal senetors and congressman run government. Explain that one away Mr. BAMF.

and medicaid is a pain in the ass to deal with when it comes to getting certain procedures done and getting paid in a timely matter. This isn't talk radio bullshit, this is real world knowledge.

I'll give you one example. I have a 39 year old brother in-law that is mentally handicapped and is on medicaid. He had 2 cysts on his head that would leak fluid and if he accidentally bumped them he would be in major pain from it. Medicaid told him and his doctor that the procedure to remove these cysts was not medically nessasary and that the procedure was cosmetic. Lucky for him there are doctors out there that do this kind of work pro-bono or else he would have had to live with it.
Thas the kind of bullshit we will have to deal with under a government rule healthcare system. You can have all the faith in the world on this fucked up government all you want but mark my worlds they will fail...


there isn't a bill out there on how the government runs medicaid....so what makes healthcare for all any differant????? I forgot.....common sense has all but left the US...+




Oh to get to the original post........this country could realy do with another Ronald Reagan type president. Hell look what the liberals have done to his home state in the last 15 years!!! Why in the hell anyone would vote liberal is beyond me. They have the shittiest track record of any group out there.

 

Again, show me where in this bill it makes that possible and then we can talk. Until then you're just blowing hot air.

Here is your logic failure in this thread. You think the government will be able to tell doctors what they can and can't do. I have no idea why you think this or where you got this crazy idea, as this has never been so much as suggested in any piece of legislation I've studied. What the government can do is REFUSE TO PAY for a procedure, just like insurance companies can and do on very many occassions. So, tough shit, hope you have private insurance that will cover it, or can put up the money yourself. Wanna know the cool thing, though? The government won't drop you if you become too much of a 'liability' like regular insurance can and does.

You're slinging a lot of insults around in this thread. Telling me I have no idea what I'm talking about, common sense has all but left, etc. etc. I'd like to know just what makes you so much inherently intellectually superior to me. Do you have some kind of PhDs in political science, or in this case the medical field? Are you a politician or do you have a career in the political arena? Are you a lawyer who helps draft these laws? I mean, from your condescending demeanor I figure you have to be something pretty damn spiffy...because it just wouldn't make sense for an average Joe to come around touting his superiority over another average Joe without anything to back it up.

 

Government funded, not government run. The proposals by even the far left mainstream democrats have all involved the government funding procedures, just like another insurance company. your insurance company can also deny your claim, and it happens all the time; just flip on the TV and check out how many lawyers are whoring themselves around offering to due your insurance company. Like I told Shamus, if you can actually cite me something tangible other than Republican chest-thumping that this is in the works I will be glad to discuss it with you. Otherwise, I'm not sure why you're spazzing out over something that hasn't even been implied to be true.