How about a teacher that works at a school that only carries it in the car? Or a bartender? Or a bank teller? That car is left unattended on a daily basis for hours on end which I would feel to be irresponsible to leave a firearm inside the vehicle.

We all have to run errands and need to leave our weapon inside the car at times, but if I know I am going to go to a place where I cannot carry for an extended period of time, I don't carry. How bad would I feel if my weapon was used in a crime against someone. It's all about positive control on the weapons you own. If you leave it in an unattended vehicle it is no longer controlled.


Thats are obviously good points to both sides.

 

Those are good points. However....Thats why I train in martial arts....For when I CAN'T carry. I never carry a weapon other than my own hands....Guns do not exist in my house. How do I know? No-one ever comes inside. LOL I am not anti-gun....Far from it, but....Irresponsible gun owners are making it harder to justify keeping them legal. Leaving your weapon in your vehicle for anything longer than about 5 minutes is clearly irresponsible. If you are headed to the bank, leave the gun at home. If you're headed to a school where you are a teacher, then leave it at home. (Although I am FOR teachers carrying while in school due to the recent school shootings as long as they take a course and target test) If you MUST leave your weapon in your car, then it SHOULD be locked up with a trigger lock which if circumnavigated, would render the weapon useless. Of course, this is just all my own opinion.

 

i keep mine in a locked steel case that is attached to the vehicle with a steel cable, if im out of the car for an extended period. otherwise it is tucked between the seats in a zippered case.

 

shhhh They'll hear you! The thought police abound!

 

I'm chiming in here, even with a CWP you are still not permitted to carry a firearm on your employer's property. The city of St. Pete has a no firearms policy, a CWP will not allow you to carry if the employer says you can't. (even with bullet holes in the front of fire stations, and having a firefighter shot on the back of my engine, and even if I have bullet holes in my personal car because it was shot up at the station) the employer can legally deny you the right to have a firearm on their property, even with a CWP.
As far as the whole martial arts thing goes I'm a master at the art of KaiShink, that's the sound that the slide makes on my .45 auto.
a good web site for us malcontents:
'Us vs. Them' ONE GRIEVANCE AT A TIME!

and here's another kicker, and this will be more important than the gun issue. IT WILL PREVENT YOUR EMPLOYER FROM SEARCHING YOUR VEHICLE WHENEVER THAY WANT TO!

 

Precisely why I don't work for a govt entity. As far as I'm concerned, NO-one has the right to search my car EXCEPT police. If you are TRAINED in how to USE said .45, then great. If you TRAIN in how to use it in a high stress situation, even better. If you DON'T train, you won't be able to hit the broad side of a barn anyway so I won't hide behind you. And when I get thrown in jail for killing the fuck who kills or shoots any of my family, I'll still have my martial arts....Thats something NO-ONE can take away from you or prevent you from having.

 

To those of you saying that it’s irresponsible to leave your gun locked in your car. I wonder if you would change your mind if you knew that most guns used in crimes are not stolen. Actually only 15% of all guns used in crimes are stolen. This includes stolen from cars, homes, and FFL’s. Do you also feel that leaving a firearm locked at home is irresponsible? Anyone that’s Pro 2nd Amendment should be against this bill. We should not allow the Senate to interpret what the 2nd amendment says. It’s easier to keep these freedoms then to try to get them back. Every time one of these bills passes we fall down a slippery slope.

Here’s a link to the statistic.
frontline: hot guns: "How Criminals Get Guns" | PBS

 

see sig for info on my Sig. Do i have a CWP? i do, so think 2x before runnin up on my low low. if you do you'll stop breathing.

 

Leaving a firearm locked at home is NOT irresponsible as a home is much larger and a would be thief has a much harder time finding the weapon. Further, that's why responsible gun owners have gun SAFES, not just a trigger lock. The trigger lock is for when the owner is HOME, while the SAFE is for when the owner is away form the home.

So...only 15% of guns on the street are stolen. So, basicly, 15 out of every 100 crimes involving a firearm are with a stolen firearm. Is that to say that if those guns had not been stolen, then those crimes would not have happened? No....Not even close. Criminals will find a way to commit crimes. Plain and simple. But your deadbolt on your house is basicly useless too, so do you leave your house unlocked all the time? Doubtful. Basicly, not allowing gun owners to keep guns in their unattended vehicles keeps the honest people from taking them. It also keeps the DISHONEST peopl from taking them out of their car....Or worse yet, commiting a worse crime than just stealing your car. If the weapon is in the car, and they happen on it in the course of stealing the car, the criminal gets a new high....They feel invincible and are actually more prone to commit armed crimes.

MOST people do not spend 1/4 of their lives in their car. MOST people do not spend 1/8 of their lives in their car. Why, then would we want to allow them to keep their personal protection device in a place where they spend so little time?

 

Why would that change my mind? 15% of all crimes sure, but what percentage of stolen guns were used? (impossible to answer) I don't think anyone was arguing that ALL crimes were commited using stolen guns. Just that the possibility is there. BTW what's 15% of 1,129?