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Originally posted by "whore"
one thing about intercooling that car.. shadows cant use the daytona/lebaron IC/Rad setup which is the most common. You COULD fab some mounts and use it, but its no bolt in.
Put the g-valve on and set it to 15psi or even the same as its at now. The computer can handle up to 15 (where the cutout is). Even at stock boost, it spools SOOO much quicker. Well, actually.. you have a Mitsy turbo so it wont be a HUGE diff, but still noticable im sure
one thing about intercooling that car.. shadows cant use the daytona/lebaron IC/Rad setup which is the most common. You COULD fab some mounts and use it, but its no bolt in.
Put the g-valve on and set it to 15psi or even the same as its at now. The computer can handle up to 15 (where the cutout is). Even at stock boost, it spools SOOO much quicker. Well, actually.. you have a Mitsy turbo so it wont be a HUGE diff, but still noticable im sure
15 psi without the IC is risky business!
Heres what my T1 non intercooled headgasket looked like after 15 psi with no IC
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Damn larry, i'm really getting fed up with this car. I cant even get to setting the fuel curve between everything else going wrong on it. I just had to get the turbo rebuilt. Tell me the secret to adjusting the base FP and the Cartech!!
Damn larry, i'm really getting fed up with this car. I cant even get to setting the fuel curve between everything else going wrong on it. I just had to get the turbo rebuilt. Tell me the secret to adjusting the base FP and the Cartech!!
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Originally posted by "whore"
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Damn larry, i'm really getting fed up with this car. I cant even get to setting the fuel curve between everything else going wrong on it. I just had to get the turbo rebuilt. Tell me the secret to adjusting the base FP and the Cartech!!
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Damn larry, i'm really getting fed up with this car. I cant even get to setting the fuel curve between everything else going wrong on it. I just had to get the turbo rebuilt. Tell me the secret to adjusting the base FP and the Cartech!!
With the wideband O2 sensor on the dyno, you wont have to guess at whats going on.
The Cartech is very sensitive!
What happened to the turbo?
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2002 MB C320 Sport Wagon 15.4@91
2002 Dodge Neon SE
1991 Dodge Spirit R/T-12.3@117 (at 368 whp) Now 500 whp / 514 ft lb on pump gas
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2002 MB C320 Sport Wagon 15.4@91
2002 Dodge Neon SE
1991 Dodge Spirit R/T-12.3@117 (at 368 whp) Now 500 whp / 514 ft lb on pump gas
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after all the month of crap with making that head work, the turbo decided to go south. Brought it to CMR to get built, the oil seal had a lot of wear on one side, and the bearings had some debris go thru them. He also found a wrong piece in the exhaust side which was causing exhaust to bypass the turbine = wasted power. All is well now, its back on the car.
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Originally posted by "whore"
after all the month of crap with making that head work, the turbo decided to go south. Brought it to CMR to get built, the oil seal had a lot of wear on one side, and the bearings had some debris go thru them. He also found a wrong piece in the exhaust side which was causing exhaust to bypass the turbine = wasted power. All is well now, its back on the car.
after all the month of crap with making that head work, the turbo decided to go south. Brought it to CMR to get built, the oil seal had a lot of wear on one side, and the bearings had some debris go thru them. He also found a wrong piece in the exhaust side which was causing exhaust to bypass the turbine = wasted power. All is well now, its back on the car.
As far as a wrong piece on the exhaust side.....what could that have been? The only thing that allows exhaust gas to bypass is the wastegate hole / flapper. Is he saying the flapper was not sealing?
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2002 MB C320 Sport Wagon 15.4@91
2002 Dodge Neon SE
1991 Dodge Spirit R/T-12.3@117 (at 368 whp) Now 500 whp / 514 ft lb on pump gas
Larry
2002 MB C320 Sport Wagon 15.4@91
2002 Dodge Neon SE
1991 Dodge Spirit R/T-12.3@117 (at 368 whp) Now 500 whp / 514 ft lb on pump gas
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Originally posted by "CrazyMoparGirl"
I guess I got lucky w/ my head gasket. I spiked 20 psi on my old T1.
I guess I got lucky w/ my head gasket. I spiked 20 psi on my old T1.
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2002 MB C320 Sport Wagon 15.4@91
2002 Dodge Neon SE
1991 Dodge Spirit R/T-12.3@117 (at 368 whp) Now 500 whp / 514 ft lb on pump gas
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2002 MB C320 Sport Wagon 15.4@91
2002 Dodge Neon SE
1991 Dodge Spirit R/T-12.3@117 (at 368 whp) Now 500 whp / 514 ft lb on pump gas
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yeah, i figured that with that turbo being part of 3 new engine break-ins... somethig got in there. The bearings werent bad, just had a few wear lines so he replaced them.
the part... its hard to explain unless you can see it or know the guts of a turbo good. I didnt even know that piece was there. Ok, in the turbine side, the center section acts as a backing plate for the exhaust side. The turbine housing goes around the wheel and then combined with the center section seals off th area. (i know you follow so far!) Ok, now behind the wheel, theres a thin metal "dish" type thing that covers back over the center section. (like the turbine wheel is on the outisde bottom of a bowl). The rim of this piece fits against the housing sealing it off inside. What happened was when they CNCd the housing bigger, they kept the stock size piece. So there was a space around the perimeter of the piece about 1/8" (however much they increased the size of the housing). This let exhaust go behind the turbine in the gap and bypass the wheel. He just put a bigger piece in so it fits tight against the housing.
the part... its hard to explain unless you can see it or know the guts of a turbo good. I didnt even know that piece was there. Ok, in the turbine side, the center section acts as a backing plate for the exhaust side. The turbine housing goes around the wheel and then combined with the center section seals off th area. (i know you follow so far!) Ok, now behind the wheel, theres a thin metal "dish" type thing that covers back over the center section. (like the turbine wheel is on the outisde bottom of a bowl). The rim of this piece fits against the housing sealing it off inside. What happened was when they CNCd the housing bigger, they kept the stock size piece. So there was a space around the perimeter of the piece about 1/8" (however much they increased the size of the housing). This let exhaust go behind the turbine in the gap and bypass the wheel. He just put a bigger piece in so it fits tight against the housing.
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Eric... while I was changing the fuel filter on my R today, it reminded me of something to tell you. Make sure you replace the rubber fuel hose segments both in the engine bay and down by the tank and filter. EVERY car of this era that ive owned has had those hoses about to rupture. They literally turn into gum and swell up. So many of these cars burn down b/c of that.. the ones under the hood break and mist the engine with fuel. So heads up on that!
