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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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none the less good luck!
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 06:27 PM
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not to be mean, being aware of every single part, and where to get custom stuff made still doesnt mean you know what to do with it.

im guessing your atleast to the 300whp range. there is no reason you shouldnt be running mid/low 12's as the car sits, if you are.
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Sneakin Deacon
not to be mean, being aware of every single part, and where to get custom stuff made still doesnt mean you know what to do with it.

im guessing your atleast to the 300whp range. there is no reason you shouldnt be running mid/low 12's as the car sits, if you are.
There is a reason. Traction off the line. I can boost up to 7psi and let it ripp off the line with my highstall torque converter but it doesnt mean im gonna pull like a motherfucker. Keep in mind this is a 3,200lb fwd car.

And I have a friend with a highperformance shop that knows what to do with anything i can get.
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 06:48 PM
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yes, i have been reading your thread on club3g, and do be honest, some the info going around over there does worry me. more specifically your thread comparing the vortech to the turbo setup you have now. like, the vortech having no belt slip??? and then your buddy comparing your sporty shift to a 5 speed, which the setups are not identical, and stating it takes 3psi more to make a sporty have the power a 5speed has due to driveline loss...thats incorrect on a few levels. namely the fact efficiency of the turbo's being used.

and yes, i am keeping in mind what you have. but how are you driving the car? are you fully stalling the car up? whats the ratio on the stator? whats the stall speed? whats the shift extension? there is alot of little stuff that will make a large difference in the characteristics of how you can launch the car, and what you can and cant get away with.
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sneakin Deacon
yes, i have been reading your thread on club3g, and do be honest, some the info going around over there does worry me. more specifically your thread comparing the vortech to the turbo setup you have now. like, the vortech having no belt slip??? and then your buddy comparing your sporty shift to a 5 speed, which the setups are not identical, and stating it takes 3psi more to make a sporty have the power a 5speed has due to driveline loss...thats incorrect on a few levels. namely the fact efficiency of the turbo's being used.

and yes, i am keeping in mind what you have. but how are you driving the car? are you fully stalling the car up? whats the ratio on the stator? whats the stall speed? whats the shift extension? there is alot of little stuff that will make a large difference in the characteristics of how you can launch the car, and what you can and cant get away with.
Well so far all of these components are in first time use on this car. Everything im doing at this point is on an unknown path. Were just moving along and learning by our progress as to what works and what doesnt. The comparrison was to give people a general idea. The turbo comparison between a 5speed and an auto are with 2 turbonetics turbos of equal specs with the same turbo kit on it with the same air fuel ratio throughout the rpm. Thats why its an accurate comparison
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 06:57 PM
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It might pay to do some research on really good tech boards for other makes to put yourself ahead of the learning curve. Sometimes people that work on specific types of cars and those cars alone get set in their ways and don't realize there is a better way to do things. Learning about about other cars can help you set your own course and come up with new ways of doing things that people on the 3g board haven't thought of yet.
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jordan Y.
It might pay to do some research on really good tech boards for other makes to put yourself ahead of the learning curve. Sometimes people that work on specific types of cars and those cars alone get set in their ways and don't realize there is a better way to do things. Learning about about other cars can help you set your own course and come up with new ways of doing things that people on the 3g board haven't thought of yet.
Way ahead of you on that my friend. The guy tahts working on my car has made turbo kits and done work on countless other makes and models. Mustangs, Acura's, mitsubishi's just to name a fiew. His current project was to build a complete turbo kit for a ford expedition. He fabricated and completed the kit in a total of 24hours from start to finish with flawless driving capubilities.
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ryu
Well so far all of these components are in first time use on this car. Everything im doing at this point is on an unknown path. Were just moving along and learning by our progress as to what works and what doesnt. The comparrison was to give people a general idea. The turbo comparison between a 5speed and an auto are with 2 turbonetics turbos of equal specs with the same turbo kit on it with the same air fuel ratio throughout the rpm. Thats why its an accurate comparison
it may be a 1st for that car...but it is by no means an unknown path.

what works and what doesnt work has already been demonstrated time and time again. there are numerous similar setups. cam design, such as duration, lift, and lobe seperation have all been proven to work with FI a certain way. head working has all been proved to work a certain way, steering away from velocity, and more towards volume on an FI application, due to the fact the turbo/super will counteract the velocity loss. and the comparison? he is running a t3/t04e on the 5speed, and your running a straight T4 from the info he posted. IMO that is not a good comparison. what are the exhaust A/R's like? and a/f isnt a good comparison to use either, its just a refernce tool.
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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Way too much technology here for me, Kenny. I'll just watch you guys from the sidelines.
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Old Aug 14, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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lol, all this talk is making me want to turbo the bird again tony then again, Dirt Inc. has had enough FI stuff to give problems for many lately lol
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