purpose built > size

 

agreed but as a generality there are only 2 ways to make hp: force air in with a turbo/supercharger, or make bigger cyclinders.

and like he said ^ purpose built motors are just as good.

 

These import vs v8 threads always get locked.

 

That is true, there is no replacement for displacement!!

So yes, given a v8, you can make more peak HP/trq

C4, you are correct, but you can make 4 cylinders fast!!! That is all that Im implying, and it sounds like you do not believe me.

I dont mean to act like an ass on the internet, but if you make 220whp on a motor, put that in a lighter car, and have really short gears, and BAM!!!!! You now have a fast car!!!

Just like with your bike, you made 167WHP, and how much does your bike weight. Its the same thing!!!!!!!

And if you do not see that, well there is nothing more I can say.

 

fast is a relative term...

 

everyone who read this jumped on me for thinking that i thought that you cant make I4's fast. I said you cant make N/A I4's fast and i'm going to stick with that statement. Fast I4 need turbos which cost $$$ like i said like 2 pages ago, because it takes $$$ to go fast.

@220whp it would have to weigh under 550lbs to make a similar power to weight of a bike. at 550lbs its not a car at that point but rather a gocart hybrid (ex: ariel atom)

are there fast hondas? Yes! but the one in the video wasn't.

 

na200whp made around 260whp, with 170 ft/lbs, ran a 12.03, he is now shooting for 11s with k20.

cxcivic, has a NA k20 in a Crx, last I heard he ran 11sec.

Both of these guys are on this board!!

Now, I know what your going to say, that they are not comfortable for daily driving, well probably not for most people. But they still are fast!!

I also had a NA honda, I do not think it was fast, but was quick, ran a mid 13 sec quarter, in a full interior 99 civic coupe. Made only 200whp
And I have tons of war storys posted, from lightnings, cobras, and other domestics. I even beat an older vette!!

 

eventaully you will see its ok to have a fast car thats comfortable to drive. you will grow up and see there is more to cars then just going fast, but when you have a nice car thats Ridiculously unnecessarly fast you just look down on those who just dont quite get it.
your sitting on nice comfy leather seats listening to the radio, with the A/C on, not overheating in the 95degree heat in the summer. not needing carbon fiber doors,hood,trunk,lexan windows, or any weight cutting to get a 240hp car to run 12's.

think about this....you cant make out with girls in the back seat of your car when the back seat of your car is sitting on the floor of your garage. plus girls like to have A/C and radios they dont enjoy their hair that they spent hours on to get all f'd up cause you want the windows down cause you took out your a/c for 5hp.

if you really wanted to go fast and be that uncomfortable just by a bike. you will go faster and you still dont have a/c, a radio, and you might get more girls...your still going to be equally profiled by the police, but at least on 2 wheels they tend to not keep up.

 

i'm sry, but thats funny...

 

so you are now admitting that NA hondas can go fast, because that last paragraph you wrote only mentioned shit about girls, which I AGREE with you 100%.

Going back to the whole point I am trying to make, which you think otherwise, quoted above. NA Hondas can go fast. I have noted na200whp car, and cxcivic car, which are both really fast, Do you not agree??

Yea, when I finally get my degree, and get a good job, start making decent money, Ill definitely buy a nice SPORTS CAR!!!

Definitely will not be a vette, unless I find a good deal on the new Z06!!!

Probably will be a Supra.

BUT, until then, I will make due with what I have, and I will be rockin a Honda to get my adrenaline going