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Originally posted by TampaWRX
Welll, with all the championships Neons are winning in professional motorsports, I can see why I should give a shit.
Show me one example of Neons winning a major championship in any form of motorsport and I will retract my "FWD is never the best option" statement. I'll say it again, there is a reason AWD is banned or penalized, while FWD is simply not run. Amateur racing really doesn't mean anything to me. When it counts, at the highest levels of motorsport, FWD is nowhere to be found, because it is a packaging compromise that is no good for maximum performance in any form of motorsport.
Welll, with all the championships Neons are winning in professional motorsports, I can see why I should give a shit.
Show me one example of Neons winning a major championship in any form of motorsport and I will retract my "FWD is never the best option" statement. I'll say it again, there is a reason AWD is banned or penalized, while FWD is simply not run. Amateur racing really doesn't mean anything to me. When it counts, at the highest levels of motorsport, FWD is nowhere to be found, because it is a packaging compromise that is no good for maximum performance in any form of motorsport.
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Originally posted by moldyhands
Show me an 11 second import that only has a few thousand in it, and I'll show you a car owner that's always talking about when his car's going to get fixed and what broke.
Show me an 11 second import that only has a few thousand in it, and I'll show you a car owner that's always talking about when his car's going to get fixed and what broke.
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did you ever notice that if someone puts somethin about a wrx/sti, someone with an srt4 or another fwd is quick to reply with a negative post? lol n vice versa. srt4s are quick out of the box specially for its price, but comeon man, this is a no brainer. Almost like that argument about a dsm being on the same level as a skyline. lol
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Originally posted by TampaWRX
Welll, with all the championships Neons are winning in professional motorsports, I can see why I should give a shit. Show me one example of Neons winning a major championship in any form of motorsport and I will retract my "FWD is never the best option" statement. I'll say it again, there is a reason AWD is banned or penalized, while FWD is simply not run. Amateur racing really doesn't mean anything to me. When it counts, at the highest levels of motorsport, FWD is nowhere to be found, because it is a packaging compromise that is no good for maximum performance in any form of motorsport.
Welll, with all the championships Neons are winning in professional motorsports, I can see why I should give a shit.
Show me one example of Neons winning a major championship in any form of motorsport and I will retract my "FWD is never the best option" statement. I'll say it again, there is a reason AWD is banned or penalized, while FWD is simply not run. Amateur racing really doesn't mean anything to me. When it counts, at the highest levels of motorsport, FWD is nowhere to be found, because it is a packaging compromise that is no good for maximum performance in any form of motorsport.
What was that again ?
You are even a asshole in automotive discussions
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Originally posted by Scott
What was that again ?
You are even a asshole in automotive discussions
What was that again ?
You are even a asshole in automotive discussions
RWD=the best platform for going drag racing...if not, why aren't you converting your little project car into a FWD monster?
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Originally posted by DebianDog
Your fucking nuts. Unless you consider drag racing NOT a motorsport! Almost NO ONE runs AWD!!! It is inherently heavy and breakable!!!
http://www.nhrasportcompact.com/2004...s_Carlson.html
Your fucking nuts. Unless you consider drag racing NOT a motorsport! Almost NO ONE runs AWD!!! It is inherently heavy and breakable!!!
http://www.nhrasportcompact.com/2004...s_Carlson.html
AWD is banned or heavily penalized in most touring car classes. Look it up, the information is freely available on the web.
Are you guys really arguing that FWD is a better platform than RWD or AWD to go fast? Are you, really? And you're calling me nuts????
Rally, circuit race, drag race or oval race a FWD car running identical weight/horsepower/structural standards as their RWD or AWD competitors and tell me how you do.
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Originally posted by FlipSpeeD
did you ever notice that if someone puts somethin about a wrx/sti, someone with an srt4 or another fwd is quick to reply with a negative post? lol n vice versa. srt4s are quick out of the box specially for its price, but comeon man, this is a no brainer. Almost like that argument about a dsm being on the same level as a skyline. lol
did you ever notice that if someone puts somethin about a wrx/sti, someone with an srt4 or another fwd is quick to reply with a negative post? lol n vice versa. srt4s are quick out of the box specially for its price, but comeon man, this is a no brainer. Almost like that argument about a dsm being on the same level as a skyline. lol
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No I am saying that RWD, not AWD, owns at the strip. You make it sound as if FWD is totally worthless and slow.
IMO.. AWD is good for snow and ice otherwise... I am not interested. I can get good short times with sticky tires. If I want to autoX, and win, I will buy a Vet
IMO.. AWD is good for snow and ice otherwise... I am not interested. I can get good short times with sticky tires. If I want to autoX, and win, I will buy a Vet
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Originally posted by moldyhands
Show me an 11 second import that only has a few thousand in it, and I'll show you a car owner that's always talking about when his car's going to get fixed and what broke.
Show me an 11 second import that only has a few thousand in it, and I'll show you a car owner that's always talking about when his car's going to get fixed and what broke.
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Originally posted by TampaWRX
And how would this car do in a proper NHRA class with classic regs, i.e. Pro Stock? When I see FWD funny or rail cars, I'll start to care. Honestly, I did not even know Neons were running in the FWD classes...figured Stephen Whathisname with the Civic and the Cavalier guys were dominating this class. Haven't ever seen an FWD class race, but when one of them traps over 300mph or puts down some 4s, let me know. RWD=the best platform for going drag racing...if not, why aren't you converting your little project car into a FWD monster?
And how would this car do in a proper NHRA class with classic regs, i.e. Pro Stock? When I see FWD funny or rail cars, I'll start to care. Honestly, I did not even know Neons were running in the FWD classes...figured Stephen Whathisname with the Civic and the Cavalier guys were dominating this class. Haven't ever seen an FWD class race, but when one of them traps over 300mph or puts down some 4s, let me know.
RWD=the best platform for going drag racing...if not, why aren't you converting your little project car into a FWD monster?
So in other words you are now being more specific because some of us provided something factual to offset your previous comments ?
No doubt RWD is superior, you are preeching to the choir on that one.
And as far as AWD being banned in most NHRA type events, it has nothing to do with them being superior or worring about dominating FWD classes. Do a little more research on this before you go telling all of us how / why.
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Originally posted by Scott
And as far as AWD being banned in most NHRA type events, it has nothing to do with them being superior or worring about dominating FWD classes. Do a little more research on this before you go telling all of us how / why.
And as far as AWD being banned in most NHRA type events, it has nothing to do with them being superior or worring about dominating FWD classes. Do a little more research on this before you go telling all of us how / why.
RWD or AWD 2 rotor (1 or 2 power adders): 2,000 pounds RWD or AWD 4 cylinder, up to 2.8 liter (170.75 ci) (1 or 2 power adders): 2,100 pounds RWD or AWD 3 rotor (1 power adder): 2,700 pounds RWD or AWD 3 rotor (2 power adders): 2,900 pounds RWD or AWD 6 cylinder, up to 3.5 liter (213.50 ci) (1 power adder): 2,700 pounds RWD or AWD 6 cylinder, up to 3.5 liter (213.50 ci), (2 power adders, on gasoline only): 2,900 pounds
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2001 Trans-Am - A4 w/2.73 Steel Driveshaft - Full weight
2004 SRT-4 - MPx, PSI intake
Best Times 1/4
N/A - 12.56@110.51
N2O - 11.43@123.15 100 shot
See My Cars - Listen to the 224/228 closed & open - My Latest Video of Drag Run
Originally posted by moldyhands
Show me an 11 second import that only has a few thousand in it, and I'll show you a car owner that's always talking about when his car's going to get fixed and what broke.
Show me an 11 second import that only has a few thousand in it, and I'll show you a car owner that's always talking about when his car's going to get fixed and what broke.
