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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by Jonas
sorry i havent gone to pilot school thats why i asked...all i see as far as plane landing is the typical slowdown onto the runway...
well its kinda common sense to know what a rudder does....
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 12:36 PM
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My friend is a pilot - he said that the pilot in this video most likely screwed up his approach based on the direction the plane was coming from. In strong crosswinds, landings can look similar to that, but they would still come in on a straight approach. This pilot probably just screwed up, but made an impressive last-second correction.
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by eclipsegst303
well its kinda common sense to know what a rudder does....
yeah kinda like how bananas grow on a banana plant not a banana tree...

u think if i knew what a rudder was i would be asking these questions... more or less anything about being a pilot?
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 03:52 PM
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Wingnut's friend is right. It looks like the pilot didn't realize the crosswind was so strong (or it gusted), went off course, corrected, and made a landing without incident. Unless 747 procedures are significantly strange to smaller airplanes, landing was a HUGE mistake. A go-around should have been performed. Look how close the outboard engine comes to the runway. Also, the plane landed on a portion of runway that was not designed to be landed on.
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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Looks like the plane was going to slow for another pass. At full throttle it would have likely still touched down. So what would be the reason for a touch and go....

Anyone who says thta's not impressive is a fool that does not know what kind of skill(LUCK) it took to make that sky yacht land. Although the Boeing is quite responsive for its size that is still an amazing feat. The crosswind that blew that thing off cousre had to be massive. And to swing the ass end around INTO the crosswind and get it on the runway is nothing short of a miracle. That bitch is like a huge sail and to bring the rear around would take more than rudder. I would think the "pilots" should be commended for having the presence of mind to throttle down the left side and full on throttle on the right. Regardless of how that plan was brought in and landed, if the vid is real, then that is some lucky sons of bitches to have that brick fall gently to the runway without incident.

One hell of a ride huh?
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by tampamax
Looks like the plane was going to slow for another pass. At full throttle it would have likely still touched down. So what would be the reason for a touch and go....

Anyone who says thta's not impressive is a fool that does not know what kind of skill(LUCK) it took to make that sky yacht land. Although the Boeing is quite responsive for its size that is still an amazing feat. The crosswind that blew that thing off cousre had to be massive. And to swing the ass end around INTO the crosswind and get it on the runway is nothing short of a miracle. That bitch is like a huge sail and to bring the rear around would take more than rudder. I would think the "pilots" should be commended for having the presence of mind to throttle down the left side and full on throttle on the right. Regardless of how that plan was brought in and landed, if the vid is real, then that is some lucky sons of bitches to have that brick fall gently to the runway without incident.

One hell of a ride huh?
No doubt it was an impressive save, but a better pilot would never have botched the approach in the first place.
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by wingnut
No doubt it was an impressive save, but a better pilot would never have botched the approach in the first place.
Still, gusts are unpredictable. They only have the best of the best flying the big jets.

The plane was going incredibly slow. I believe those stall at roughly 100mph. If it was not for ground effect (the increasing of lift near the ground) it appears it would have stalled.

Since we're on the subject of airliners and good saves, here's a .mov of a DC-8 in a gust at landing. The pilots did an excellent job keeping the plane from becoming a fireball. Everything was by the book and flawless. http://www.ipapilot.org/wind_plane_23_2.mov
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I wish that wind vien that you see briefly in the first vid was visible for the entire approach. I think you would speak otherwise if you knew the gusts that hit that big bitch from the side.
Go try to drive across a large patch of ice in a semi and trailer, or even a box truck, with a stiff cross wind and see how easily you can drive the truck in a straight line for a "good approach."[/sarcasm]



That second vid is also a great vid for showing the great training those pilots had. Talk about nearly instant reflexes. Awesome save.
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Old Jan 18, 2005 | 11:10 PM
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Originally posted by tampamax
I wish that wind vien that you see briefly in the first vid was visible for the entire approach. I think you would speak otherwise if you knew the gusts that hit that big bitch from the side.
Go try to drive across a large patch of ice in a semi and trailer, or even a box truck, with a stiff cross wind and see how easily you can drive the truck in a straight line for a "good approach."[/sarcasm]
Hey, how bout you watch the smoke that comes off the tires after the landing, also look at the wind sock, and lastly look how calm the water is - cross wind my skinny white ass. Landing was botched - nothing you can say will convince me otherwise.
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Old Jan 19, 2005 | 11:17 AM
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Good points. Still sticking with gusts, or "maybe" an engine was out and they were trying to limp that bitch in. The reason i say that is i know a few pilots commercial and Navy, and know the ours of training they go through let only the amount of real fly time. To botch somthing that bad just doesn't register with me. If you are right then i wouldn't think those guys would be flying anymore after they come off that plane.
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