toyotajoe1980

probs wont do it but how much for engine and swap which has better hp and which can you supercharge or turbo what is the hp both engines supercharged

Geoffrie

Stock Vs. stock, The blacktop is better in every aspec - It has higher C/R (11 vs 10.5), bigger throttle bodies, lightend but still strong internals, But the biggest atvantage is it is map sensored so you can run open throttle bodies!

Even with all that, it only adds up to an additional 5hp over silver top.

If you plan on keeping it stock, blacktop is better, but if running a aftermarket ecu (converting to map) either one would suit just fine. They say the silvertop internals are more stout, so would probably be better suited if your going for lots of HP.

I've also heard about that some of the blacktops are failing early - Look at this

As for super/turbocharging - both have too high of C/R stock, but either can be fitted with 8.1C/R pistons from the early 4agze (mr2 motor) or 8.9C/R from the later 4agze (we never got these here). Both are forged and the 8.9C/R version is ceramic coated! The silvertop is probably a better choice for forced induction.

So, the silvertop is cheaper and may be more reliable, more stout, better suited for forced induction, and easily and cheaply converted to map with a megasquirt. so for my money I'd go with a silvertop...

-Jeff

n2ocamry

wow too much info

give me time

wait....

i think i got it

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ok i got it

black.... i mean silver is better


ok huh....

toyotajoe1980

thanx but got any ideas on how much they cost

Geoffrie

about the cheapest I've seen a silvertop is $800, maybe someone else would have more sources though...

-Jeff

n2ocamry

jeff where can i get a silvertop for 800
or a blacktop for what ever
i can get that shit tomorow if that is the right price i thought it was around 1500 for silver and 1800 for black but whatever kick ass

where can i get it

toyotajoe1980

sweeeet I want to find one now put it in and then show off my fast car (man I dont have the cash though, ya know with my wife being pregnant and all)


fyi what kind of work does it involve other than the obvious swap the motor mumbo jumbo, like do i need a special tranny or rewire the main ecu, ya know ish like that

aphxero

You can get a silvertop with no wiring, megasquirt it, tune it and make more power than a stock blacktop. All that would run about $1000.

n2ocamry

NO ONE ANSWERED MY QUESTION OF WHERE CAN I GET IT AT

toyotajoe1980

ebay? maybe?dunno?