Originally Posted by
John

getting all worked up over a honda, relax man.
In these parts, I'm an old man, I've been around building Hondas since 97-98 - before TR even existed. I guess you'll just have to trust me, but when the Insight was released in 99, all the Honda ppl were stroking themselves at the thought of swapping in a B series into that 1800lb (wet) chassis. I agree, the Insight wasn't built to moisten panties, but if you can't do the math on 1800lbs + 200 plus HP (and I'm sure you can) then we probably should just end this right here


I'm not getting over worked over a Honda. I just don't think its fair that you are only putting Honda into a category by themselves when every other make and model is modded/swapped to hell. There were three styles offered for the Insight back in the late 90's. Just incase you have forgotten I will refresh your memory.

MTX with ac 1880lbs MTX without ac at 1850lbs and the CVT with ac at a whopping 1960lbs. If you consider yourself an old man because you been in the game since 97 or 98 I feel sorry for you.

That isn't even close to old school and at 1800 pounds why settle for the insight when you can get yourself a first gen that is 1500lbs. It's 300lbs lighter then the insight so you do the math. 1500lbs +200 HP (I am almost certain you can). Even a 4th gen that is around 1933lbs for the HB or DX hatch which isn't that bad + 200hp is still great.