Originally Posted by
Alpha
John. You know you did this to start a pissing match. You knew it would possibly bring you more business. The business you so badly need right now. All the times I have defended you and not believed what people said about you ... You've two faces John. How many people have came to Brotherz Racing, I have talked to at the races, the track, etc. that have said you're an asshole, took advantage of them, wouldnt help them, etc. You will never wash your hands of this issue. You know that and I know that
John,
This thread in no way was to attract more business. I already warned you over the phone that Calvin wanted to make this issue public & you acknowledged it.
If I needed more business I could simply start tuning cars for way less money then I charge now & consider volume versus quality when it comes to pricing.
Sure, some people probably hate me for some unknown reason. Perhaps because I don't like tuning cars that are put together with poor quality & cheap parts.
Now ask your self this. How many people hate CFT? How many people disliked brotherz when you worked there? How many people disliked John Solero? How many people dislike other bay area shops like Driven Concepts etc?
Everyone has their haters. Everyone has their followers etc...
Guess who hears the trash? The competition.
To be honest with you this thread is about principal. You lied your customers & my self concerning eCtune. Not to mention you never bothered to make sure Calvin was being paid for his hard work.
Originally Posted by
Alpha
Calvin wont have internet access for a couple more hours? You couldnt wait a couple more hours? Come on John. Be real. You knew this would bring you more business and jumped on it. Like I said off TR. At the end of the day business is business to you and loosing a couple friendships doesnt affect you at the end of a business day
He said he would try to get on today if he could, obviously he didn't make it today.
Concerning friendship, I don't want to be friend's with people I can't trust.
I consider what you have done to be manipulative & fraudulent.
Concerning jumping on this for more business: People usually get tuned by the cheapest & quickest solution out there 80% of the time. I know for a fact that I along with LHT are probably the most expensive tuners in the bay area. You don't see me lowering my prices to compete with the competition do you?
Originally Posted by
TheRedDragon
on behalf of Calvin thats funny. Like ive said to you before learn aem learn other makes etc and you wouldn't need to worry just about hondas. Alpha will continue to tune and kill your business. he will always be better than you. his customer service and the things he does will always make him better. You are all about yourself and it shows,your ex customers all shit on you and we would always deffend you. i guess we were foolish!
Although I appreciate the suggestions, I have no interest in pursuing other vehicles at this time.
Why? I don't like learning on customer's cars. I don't like asking colleagues for help or calibrations.
I have also defended brotherz & alpha when customers talked bs to me about methods which were used at your facility. It is a revolving door of bs talking in this industry.
Originally Posted by
poorboy44
hey man, i'm just callin it like i see it. it sure does seem odd that you would do this with no personal agenda, when in fact you also complained to alpha that he was tuning aem to cheap. its not alpha's fault you overprice your services and everyone started going elsewhere.
Randy,
You overheard alpha & I talking about tuning pricing during a friendly discussion at dinner or breakfast (I don't remember). I informed him that he should charge more for his time for his own benefit.
Originally Posted by
dscivicdx
and true agendas aside, john(alpha) if you were telling people that they were getting ectune and you were tuning with crome, thats pretty messed up, regardless of the situation and people need to know.
im not saying thats what happened and you have always seemed like a cool guy so i have a hard time believing it, but i dont think john(mtber) would just throw it out there because he is hurting for money.
Wow, some one can see the real reason behind the original post
Originally Posted by
slo_94_civic
I think the fault lies with eCTune that there software is written with an honesty policy this is 2008 and not everyone is a boy scout. Im guessin people on here dont download music, use hacked software or have multiple computers running on the same OS license. I think this should have been addressed in a more professional manner on mtber part. I have dealt with mtber he is a stand up guy that does care about repeat customers. I do honestly feel this thread was an attempt to attack Alphas rep. Dont know Alpha or anything about him so I cant make any comments good or bad. mtber if I see it wrong well sorry I am entitled to my opinion. Who wouldnt want to be one of the sole honda tuners in the area? $$$$ makes people do things out of character. Just my .02 and none of it may be correct.
I made the post to try to release the information in the most unbiased manor I felt possible. However, I am looking like the snitch because I am the messenger.
At this point I don't care how it looks. People should know the truth concerning such an act.