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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 06:57 AM
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There is no and will never be a replacement for displacement. The fact that a "1.3l" can put out 900 horsepower is amazing... but the cost to get 400 horse outta it and keep the reliability and DD the thing is brutal and expensive. Turbos the only cost effective way to do so. V8, very easy/cheap to get 400whp and maintain reliability and DD and this is without a turbo. Add turbo to built V8 and bye bye ported turbo rotary. Toss v8 in tin can and watch out ER!!!! So many options, much more support, much cheaper, but then again, ive never built a "high performance" rotary... so maybe everyone is assuming what they dont know and the real triangle guys are laughing about the best kept secrets in the industry?
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 07:29 AM
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when was the first 350? the 1950s? when was the first 13B? 1974. first otto cycle recipricating engine: 1892? first RUNNING KKM (Kreiskolbenmotor) type wankel engine? 1959 I think. 1957 there was a DKM (Drehkolbenmotor) type. Our cars use the KKM type

MY POINT BEING- you've got about 60 years, at least, of engineering devolpment behind v8s & stuff- so by nautre, they're going to be better engines. If the rotary came out first, everyone would think v8s, etc, are "teh gayzz" & dumb, novelty engines. but it's the other way around.

rotaries are the replacement for displacement- no one has ever MANUFACTURED AND SOLD anything bigger than 654cc/rotor. How about when GM was planning to make 250,000 chevy vegas w/ 2 rotor engines? They were displacing a fair bit more per rotor too, I think the total displacement was 2.5L, so 1250cc/rotor. But then the gas crisis of 73/74 hit.

I honestly think that if mazda/else/etc were to make a 3.5/4L 3 rotor, there would be NO WAY to beat it. But that won't ever happen.

anyway that's my thoughts. I don't drive a 7 to make gobbles of power or anything- to me theyr'e neat 80s cars w/ 80s looks, & novelty bizarre engines that "pour out power smooth as silk" (mazda commercial, 1986) which I think are super neat, & cool to have/wrench on.

Of course the reliablity goes down when they're forced induction, all engines do. But they're putting out the power of engines 4x or more they're size, so the longevity goes down even further.

Someone man up, & rather than SWAP an engine, buy a Mill, learn to do metal casting, & build my said 4.5L 3 rotor.. You'll see, you'll see.

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Originally Posted by Deceiving Honda
ive already been threw one motor
because 6 port 13b's were ment to be turbo'd...
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 08:15 AM
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its ok im prolly going the ls1 route as well once i get this stupid bitch paid off lol
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Monsta13B
its ok im prolly going the ls1 route as well once i get this stupid bitch paid off lol
awww, did you get mad at the wankle because your speedo cable broke ?
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 09:14 AM
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this thread got fucked just as suspected... haha bottom line is to get were i am now ? i could have had a ls1 with turbos.... shame shame shame
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Old Aug 10, 2010 | 10:10 AM
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im sorry, i just had to.
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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 05:41 AM
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Its not to late Justin... This will help you https://www.tamparacing.com/forums/p...bo-set-up.html

As far as Landons idea.... thats not to shabby. I have a concept in my mind that i am dying to try! Luis has recently been turned on to the basic idea ive been toying with, but im looking to go quite a bit further. Only thing stopping me is the standalone... and rebuild kit prices
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Old Aug 11, 2010 | 10:41 AM
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if someone can hook me up with a 20b eccentric shaft i can build my own 3 rotor, but why waste the money in a rebuild kit and shaft?, when a ls1 is cheaper ? plus its not even close to 5.7 L and then thers the 6.0 L LS6 dosent even make since to waste the cash, but for all you rotary rich fucks who daily yalls shit, and dont drift like i do pretty much evry week. yes its fine.... but i don't think i will ever do ls1 any time soon as we all know these N/A 13b's are bullet prof this saterday im going to test 15 pounds of boost at drifting also might slap on some drift tires...
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^ i may attend.... i may be under the hood till 1am.... time will tell
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