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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 01:12 PM
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Thumbs up Testing waters on my sleeved B16 block

I may be willing to sell the sleeved B16 race block out of my car if someone is interested... Only has about 200 miles on it... I am just thinking of going a different route...
This block has been decked so it will require a slighly thicker headgasket if your heads combustion chambers are not cut out to 84mm. Compression is 120-125psi (8.0-8.5:1) with my ITR head and a 3 mil headgasket as of last Friday when I drove the car to Racing Integration. A GSR head and a normal thickness headgasket would bring it to about 9:1. Just had compression, leak down, valve lash, and timing all checked last Friday by Collin at Racing Integration who gave this engine a clean bill of health... All components were purchased new, and assembled by Collin at Racing Integration. Many people can vouch for Collin, myself, and this engine... On to the specifics...
-JDM B16A block
-Darton M.I.D. sleeves bored to 84mm
-Wiseco pistons with coated skirts and upgraded wrist pins
-Eagle ESP HBeams w/ ARP 2000 bolts
-Calico coated ACL bearings (Mains, rods, and thrust)
-Brand new ITR oil and water pumps
-ARP head studs
-ARP Main studs
-Freshly balanced and micropolished OE B16 crank
-All assembly was done by Collin at Racing Integration....
(I'm sure there is more that I forgot, so any questions just ask...)





$3250 OBO complete assembled shortblock (minus oil pan/pickup)

May also be willing to part bare sleeved block with or without oil and water pumps, head studs, main studs, crank, etc... Prices negotiable, just contact me with any questions...

If interested, please PM me or contact me via email at BoostedCivicSedan@yahoo.com
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 01:21 PM
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figure out why it only made 525whp@30 psi?

How much are those darton M.I.D?

im sure somebopdy will just on this asap!
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 01:42 PM
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The loss of power was a combination of different things... As I stated in my original post, with my combination this only yielded 120-125psi compression, which is about 8.0:1-8.5:1, but this was certainly not the only reason... There were numerous factors which I won't get into, but this block was not an issue... This block will make some big power, just not as easily as the new more aggressive setup I want to go with...

Darton sleeving is roughly $1200 +shipping give or take a couple hundred depending where you go...
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Old Mar 25, 2010 | 02:38 PM
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my motor is 8:1 comp and yields 165-170 compression hmmm.

well your motor is built by the best, so no issue with that part

my next motor, I want alot higher compression.
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I highly doubt your motor is 8:1 with 165-170psi compression... The easiest way to determine compression ratio based off cranking pressure is a simple formula... A 1:1 ratio is equal to 0 PSI. 14.7 PSI is equal to a 2:1 ratio. Just multiply your ratio by 14.7 to get PSI, or divide PSI by 14.7 to get ratio.

For example, 165psi / 14.7 = a ratio of 11.22:1 or 170psi / 14.7 = 11.56:1

Mine would be 120psi / 14.7 = a ratio of 8.16:1 or 125psi / 14.7 = 8.50:1

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Let me add that this is just cranking pressure... It is a rough estimate converting cranking pressure to actual compression.. There are too many variables to determine actual compression ratios based off of cranking pressure... For example a 13 to 1 race engine may only have 100 psi cranking but a stock 8.5 to 1 may have 120 psi. swap cams from one to the other and you might now have 300 in one and 50 in the other.

In any engine an increase in compression ratio will increase cranking psi, but so will increasing valve lash. Decreasing valve lash will increase valve overlap and lower cranking psi. Other variables include rocker arm wear as well as cam wear and advancing or retarding cam timing may have an affect on cranking pressure as well.
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ttt for a good guy thats good at math!
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I didn't invent the formula, just stole it from someone else

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Bump for a sick setup!
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view bumps and sick setup
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