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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 07:46 PM
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what's the difference? I've read that the kouki clusters wont work in a Zenki...

for the record, i did search around, and all i found was some dip saying they didn't work... and not why?
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 08:50 PM
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Iv seen the cool kouki clusters in zenkies.
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yee, they're okay, i don't like the gradiation on the backing plate or whatever... but I'm looking at a JDM unit that I'd like to convert to read 180MPH instead of 180KMPH...

so I'm kinda feeling it out...
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 08:59 PM
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plugs are different, behind the cluster. you can undo the little screws for the 4 gauges, but they might be different to.
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Old Oct 12, 2009 | 09:29 PM
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Well cause I know iv seen ppl use the perforated kouki cluster in zenkies. But shit you shoud just do the s15 cluster you only have to re-wire a couple things.
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by drifthappy
Well cause I know iv seen ppl use the perforated kouki cluster in zenkies. But shit you shoud just do the s15 cluster you only have to re-wire a couple things.
you have no idea what youre talking about. i know one of VERY FEW people that have gotten almost everything to work from an S15 cluster into an S14, and if i remember right, it was the speedo that didnt work due to a few factors. regardless, it requires extensive wiring and circuitry knowledge, and even if u are a pro, its a long trial and error process. unless you just want it there for looks, go ahead, but its not worth the headache if you ask me. kouki clusters into zenki's is much simpler, yet still complicated. re-wiring is needed. there might be a writeup on that on Zilvia, so search harder, i know there are some instructions on there. i believe theres a write up for youre speedo to read kph to mph. honestly tho, my car reads up to 180kph, its the stock white background cluster and im happy with it. the nismo optional one reads higher, but has a black surround. in the end, its a ridiculous amount of wiring. what i want is the clusters they get in Poland. i had an old pic of em on my old mac, not gonna look it up now, shit is sick. the increments are more european while still retaining the japanese design to the cluster itself.
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by komron
you have no idea what youre talking about. i know one of VERY FEW people that have gotten almost everything to work from an S15 cluster into an S14, and if i remember right, it was the speedo that didnt work due to a few factors. regardless, it requires extensive wiring and circuitry knowledge, and even if u are a pro, its a long trial and error process. unless you just want it there for looks, go ahead, but its not worth the headache if you ask me. kouki clusters into zenki's is much simpler, yet still complicated. re-wiring is needed. there might be a writeup on that on Zilvia, so search harder, i know there are some instructions on there. i believe theres a write up for youre speedo to read kph to mph. honestly tho, my car reads up to 180kph, its the stock white background cluster and im happy with it. the nismo optional one reads higher, but has a black surround. in the end, its a ridiculous amount of wiring. what i want is the clusters they get in Poland. i had an old pic of em on my old mac, not gonna look it up now, shit is sick. the increments are more european while still retaining the japanese design to the cluster itself.
good luck.
I wish s13's had cool clusters to swap to well I guess there is always he type x cluster... I just did the EDM cluster so it reads MPH too haha
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 07:34 PM
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I wish s13's had cool clusters to swap to well I guess there is always he type x cluster... I just did the EDM cluster so it reads MPH too haha
Type X cluster is nice, if i had an s13 id shoot for that. havent looked at the edm s13 clusters tho. not into s13's
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Originally Posted by komron
you have no idea what youre talking about. i know one of VERY FEW people that have gotten almost everything to work from an S15 cluster into an S14, and if i remember right, it was the speedo that didnt work due to a few factors. regardless, it requires extensive wiring and circuitry knowledge, and even if u are a pro, its a long trial and error process. unless you just want it there for looks, go ahead, but its not worth the headache if you ask me. kouki clusters into zenki's is much simpler, yet still complicated. re-wiring is needed. there might be a writeup on that on Zilvia, so search harder, i know there are some instructions on there. i believe theres a write up for youre speedo to read kph to mph. honestly tho, my car reads up to 180kph, its the stock white background cluster and im happy with it. the nismo optional one reads higher, but has a black surround. in the end, its a ridiculous amount of wiring. what i want is the clusters they get in Poland. i had an old pic of em on my old mac, not gonna look it up now, shit is sick. the increments are more european while still retaining the japanese design to the cluster itself.
good luck.

Really I dont know what im talking about. Would you like me to post up the write up I have that gets everything to work in a s13??? So yes everything will work with a s14.
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Old Oct 15, 2009 | 07:54 PM
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Ill post it anyways. S15 cluster into s13

Figuring out how to understand the FSM literally opened the door for me to completely understanding any Nissan. To put simply.. all the circuits in your cluster are 12volt and are complete circuits. You just provide the positive and negative for it at specific pins, which the FSM explains to you!

You have Two pins for power (one constant for the clock, one ignition for the cluster) and one pin for ground. Then, for example, you tap into your left blinker right under your steering wheel for pin 21, then tap into your left blinker for 29, then ground pin 28 to the chassis. And that's it.... you now completed the blinker circuit and have working blinkers/hazards on your cluster.

Believe it or not. The gauges are even easier. The RPM is one wire directly from the ECM (yellow/red). The Fuel gauge is one wire directly from the fuel pump (the green wire). The water temp is one wire directly from the sensor. And lastly, the speed is also directly from the ECM, but I couldn't wire this one since I don't have the ABS system or the VSS.

I used the terminals from a ECCS harness. So slice one up and take a bunch of wires out of it. Then start making your own harness. What's so awesome is that... I probably only wired in.... 15-20 wires to the cluster to get only what I needed to work (rpm, gas, w. temp, blinkers, high beam, hand brake, check engine, oil pressure, gauge illumination, and air bag. If you don't ground the air bag terminal, the air bag light will stay on forever.). There are 64 pins, half of which aren't used unless you have the Hicas system for example, or an Automatic tranny. Last, advice. You should have about five ground wires coming out of the cluster, it's important that you ground each wire seperately, at least an inch apart. The current could travel backwards in the wire and short a circuit (don't worry though, there are diodes built in to the circuit board to protect it from damage).
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