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you've got it, the sway bars are fun too, Lol
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Uh, I didn't read the last 6 posts, so forgive me if I reiterate points already made...
On a stock rear setup, 1/2 of the spring and the shock housing are unsprung. The top hat, shock rod, and other 1/2 of the spring are sprung. The rod/valve assembly is a lot lighter than the shock housing, which is why you see inverted tube designs. That way the heavier end of the shock is sprung weight. On a pushrod setup, the rod and I think 1/2 of the turnbuckle is unsprung, which is WAY less than ANY outboard damper/spring setup ever hopes to be.
For $1k on a rear setup, I'd just do some 8611's and GC springs. Reduced unsprung weight is not going to compensate for crap dampers. And if you're including all the parts shown, labor, and NRE amortization, what's left of that $1k isn't a lot. That's just conventional wisdom, though. I'd like to see what they've done to "prove" the setup and how it fares versus and off the shelf standard kit.
What I REALLY like about this setup is that it's on an S13, which is the poorest handler of all S-chassis. It's a pretty sweet strut bar, though!
Someone do a setup with rotary dampers.
On a stock rear setup, 1/2 of the spring and the shock housing are unsprung. The top hat, shock rod, and other 1/2 of the spring are sprung. The rod/valve assembly is a lot lighter than the shock housing, which is why you see inverted tube designs. That way the heavier end of the shock is sprung weight. On a pushrod setup, the rod and I think 1/2 of the turnbuckle is unsprung, which is WAY less than ANY outboard damper/spring setup ever hopes to be.
For $1k on a rear setup, I'd just do some 8611's and GC springs. Reduced unsprung weight is not going to compensate for crap dampers. And if you're including all the parts shown, labor, and NRE amortization, what's left of that $1k isn't a lot. That's just conventional wisdom, though. I'd like to see what they've done to "prove" the setup and how it fares versus and off the shelf standard kit.
What I REALLY like about this setup is that it's on an S13, which is the poorest handler of all S-chassis. It's a pretty sweet strut bar, though!
Someone do a setup with rotary dampers.
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Also would you lose alot of shock travel, with such tiny shocks? Or does the radius of the turn buckle play into that?
Like I said those look way to much like rear shocks off a 1000cc sport bike.
Like I said those look way to much like rear shocks off a 1000cc sport bike.
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the different radius's of the rod mount to pivot point and shock mount to pivot point act as a reducer to allow for a shorter shock and spring
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just looked at it all again, adjustable high and low speed compression dampening and rebound dampening, shit i'd seriously consider it if i still had an s13.
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Factory 1000cc rear shocks. Compression and rebound adjustable:
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Epstein,
The cool thing the adjustability implies is that they are not crap dampeners, they look like universal/stock car stuff. The whole set up looks far more appealing than expensive as hell, limited quantity, single chassis code coilovers in a standard installation configuration like the GR+ 3-way for s13.
The cool thing the adjustability implies is that they are not crap dampeners, they look like universal/stock car stuff. The whole set up looks far more appealing than expensive as hell, limited quantity, single chassis code coilovers in a standard installation configuration like the GR+ 3-way for s13.
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My main reasoning behind the bike stuff is because the external resivior is turned sideways like that, which i've only really seen on bikes. Most car stuff is usually pointed downwards.
And the shock I posted thats off an R1 looks almost identical to the one on the their website. I actually think those are the same shocks.
And the shock I posted thats off an R1 looks almost identical to the one on the their website. I actually think those are the same shocks.
