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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by asia989
We know this butters jus stick with your duct tape skills

thats racist and i take offense to your comment.
i cant remember the last time duct tape touched my hands.

I understand it to a certain extent but my electrical background isn't on the same level as some....hell its nowhere close but i dont tune. I pay people that know whats up.
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Sohc4now
thats racist and i take offense to your comment.
i cant remember the last time duct tape touched my hands.

I understand it to a certain extent but my electrical background isn't on the same level as some....hell its nowhere close but i dont tune. I pay people that know whats up.
Me racist? Never jus because I have a cotton field an workers doesn't make me racist,jus better off
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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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Well, I started on my 5lug tonight .. I kinda got lazy after having a few beers and calling it quits till the morning. atleast I finished up the rears.

Ill have pics up of the whole car following finishing it tomorrow..





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Old Dec 10, 2008 | 09:46 PM
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well found out where my buddys batery drain is comin from now we just gota fix it...

and i found out that my hatch i just got the motor in shit 2 injectors today.. havent even driven it yet..

does anyone have a stock s14 downpipe? from the header to the cat i really need one or an sr-20 dp thats not mod'd thanks
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Epstein
Figured out how the ignition dwell settings work in the S13SR ROM's. Got to borrow a scope from work to help out. It's pretty sweet.

So apparently the stock map for dwell time dips down between idle and about 4k rpms. Above 4k, it's basically flat. The idea with dwell time is to charge up the coil for a certain number of milliseconds. That charge is then fired through the plug. The longer the dwell, the more charge, up until you've saturated the coil. So you need enough dwell to fire it, but not so much that it gets too hot. At redline, the map has about 25% more dwell, so we know that it can take that amount of time. So, just making the map linear with the same amount of dwell across the rpm range will be an improvement. Calculating is a pain in the ass, since they generate this number based on degrees of rotation (dwell angle), so you have to divide by 360* to get the duty, then multiply by the time per rotation to get a number in mS.

The result is a much smoother car in the 1000-4000 rpm range, with stronger return-to-idle qualities. My car has been a pain in this band due to combustion chamber reshaping, large-ish cams, and a greddy intake mani.

For those programming at home, 0x0510-0x051F is the dwell voltage coefficient. Less dwell is needed with higher voltage because you're charging the coil faster. 0x0C40-0x0C5F is the dwell duty coefficient versus rpm (400 rpm per box). This table increases with rpm because there is less time per rotation at higher rpms, so you need to charge for a larger percentage of the time. Stock, the dwell time is about 2mS above 4k.
I ran into the dwell problem with a Mustang back in the cut. We really could have used someone who could pick apart the ECU like you can but this was back in 1998. Our simple fix for lack of dwell (with one coil, the problem is greatly exacerbated) was an aftermarket ignition amplifier box. It worked but never gave us a finite dwell that was satisfactory.

Good stuff as usual, Chris.
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 06:18 AM
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Wish it would stop raining to i could put on a new goodie i picked up last night
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 06:46 AM
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Ask Sean about his cage. It's baller.
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 06:57 AM
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The short version about dwell:

More spark energy for free. More spark can equal better mileage, smoother running, less misfire. It also lets you swap to other coil setups like LS1 coils and set the dwell to match.

Think of it like adding a few milliseconds to your NOS timer.... it's the difference between running like ass and running 9's.
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 07:04 AM
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Yep.

I could go into details about why the Mustang had less dwell but it's boring and not for this forum.
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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 07:05 AM
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ahhhhhhh....


lol, chris i used your last post as a bench mark haha. i was hanging out with some friends, read them your paragraph, and said "when I understand this guys, I'll be content with my automotive knowlege"
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