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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackzenki82
wider track
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Cool and in reality, for 99.9% of the real world, no actual measureable difference, unless you're going to now go for that extra .001th/sec at the track mr andretti.

Originally Posted by Blackzenki82
50% increased structural stiffness over S13
100% bending rigidity improvement over S13
You actually want to claim that as a fact ? Right, S13's just fold right in half, happens everyday.

But hey, whatever helps the moron take pride in his almighty S14

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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackzenki82
50% increased structural stiffness over S13
100% bending rigidity improvement over S13
Wanna post up some legitimate testing to back up these absolutely random percentages?
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 10:41 AM
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yeah, i do want to claim that as a fact...

just face up, S14's are a better car, S13's are a blast for those who own them, and enthusiasts, but when it comes down to it, S14's are a better choice
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 10:44 AM
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S13 > s14 IMHO, I have driven both and I would much rather "drive" a s13.. Now if I wanted a clean nice looking car, s14 is the way Id go.
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 10:53 AM
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I'd be interested in the numbers too. Are they not esentially the same chassis...just tweaked, as they should be, for the better. I'm not saying that Nissan didnt improve on the S-chassis from s13 to the s14...just like the facts. Its just progress.

But wait...this is the interwebs...all statements are true.

I personally have never driven a S14 and wouldnt like mind comparing the "feel" difference. One question though...better choice for what?

seems like no one keeps them stock if they do anything outside of daily driving them...so that point could be mute.

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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackzenki82
yeah, i do want to claim that as a fact...

just face up, S14's are a better car, S13's are a blast for those who own them, and enthusiasts, but when it comes down to it, S14's are a better choice
Based off of what ?

Goddamn, you're dense

Hey, the Lotus Elise has a wheelbase of 90.6"
So apparently it sucks in comparison to the S13, with its extreme 97.4" wheelbase, and the S14 just puts those elise to shame with its massive 99.4" wheelbase

Hey, just face up, you're dumb and the only retard around actually pulling at thin air to come up with some justification of how your old 90's car, is better than another old 90's car.

And even more amusing that you're too dumb to realize, that if you somehow think the S13's you've driven drive some sort of measureable amount less capable, isnt caused by lack of maintenance, of course an older car owned by someone who hasnt kept things properly maintained isnt going to drive well. Stop driving busted hoopties, and preaching about how your busted hoopty drives less hoopty-like than another old hoopty.

The only FACT, is that its a matter of opinion based on appearance.

S14's have a longer wheelbase blah blah
S13's weigh less, and hatches have more storage space, blah blah

Dumb, amazing that you couldnt grasp this from my first sarcastic post about this whole stupid which 90's hooptie is better arguement.
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by rhart
One question though...better choice for what?

seems like no one keeps them stock if they do anything outside of daily driving them...so that point could be mute.

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Hey, look reality, summed up.

With most of the performance builds involving extra bracing, roll cages, replaced arms, joint types changing, etc, the reality of it is that you're splitting hairs, and stupid if you're trying to claim supremacy for one or the other when they were both produced sidexside.
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 11:01 AM
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Structurally they're very similar. S14's are better, but its nothing mind blowing. The only real difference is where the gas tank is located. Everything else is pretty much the same.

And if we're going to pull random numbers out of our asses, strut bars, fender braces and maybe a front nismo brace and they suddenly become 100% the same car. Fact.
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 11:18 AM
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i'm not pulling random numbers out of thin air

that's direct from Nissan, information based on the "all new" 1995 Nissan 240SX coupe, and 240SX SE coupes...


so let me see... Nissan says the S14 is 50% more rigid, and has a 100% improvement over bend rigidity... then tommy says "that's all bullshit stop reaching"



well fuck, i guess I'll have to pass on a multibillion dollar auto manufacturer, and go with Tommy, Nissan doesn't know what the hell they're talking about, Tommy does... maybe you should stop calling people retarded when you don't even know what the fuck you're talking about.


dan, i would say that a 50% and 100% improvement over a previous model is a substantial improvement... yes, put all the bracing on a S13, and then you'll have probably around the same amount.... then put the same bracing on a S14, and you'll have a substantially improved chassis, well over Nissans rated numbers...
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Old Jun 23, 2011 | 12:00 PM
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You guys must be driving broken S14s. Especially if you are coming from hatchbacks. Its a whole different story.
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