Traded it about 2 weeks ago, bought a 1 piece drive shaft for the new car. Got 4 tires, put together the interior, now fixing other small problems.

 

i think his animosity towards fabricators is based off of envy. Considering his car is stock looking with all off the shelf parts without a single custom piece, i bet he doesnt even know how to make something so all he does is hate on people with the ability to think outside of a cataloge.

If I am wrong Tim by all means correct me.

and if you wanna talk shit about driving being better than building shit maybe you should come up to my shop and meet my boss. he has been racing since roughly 1970 and has drive the 24 Hours of Daytona, 12 of sebring and countless other races. He still has his car that he raced at daytona. It has been sitting in the shed for 8 years because he would rather build shit than drive it. And frankly you and your little auto X events arent that special. if you want to be elitest about driving you might want to get into a GT1 class race car and run some legitimate races before you act all hard and shit.

 

no man. i could make shit, but i dont.
i work on cars all day, and have for a long time.
end of the day, i want to buy something thats easy to install, and then drive.
making shit fit, and fabricating shit stresses me out and isnt fun to me at all.

im glad your boss is such a badass dude, but if you like him so much, why dont you move to massechusets and marry him?
i know autocrosses arent special, trust me im not elitist about that at all.
but on the flipside, exactly what driving events do you do?
none, right? exactly.
so have fun living off your bosses accomplishments, ill be over here. driving.

 

and yeah dude.
ill just go "get into a gt1 car"
because its as easy as signing up for a local softball team.

 

No no and no. You're seriously oversimplifying things. You don't just throw the biggest sway bar you can find on there and hope for the best! Spring rate and sway bar rate should be looked at together. There are lots of variables, not just how thick the bar is or if it's solid or hollow.

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If you're just going for ridiculously over-stiff suspension, why don't you just replace your shocks with solid metal rods? That should be stiff, right?

 

I work on cars all day too? What's your point? If you have given fabricating legitate attemps and you're not good at it, it happens not everyone is going to be. It takes certain skill I guess you don't have. It happens.

So having mutual respect for a well accomplished person means I'm gay and want to marry him now? Why is it that all you retorts have gay undertones? Is there something you wanna tell us Tim?

No I have not done any driving events since I moved to florida. I used to when I had my mustang a few years ago. I am currently working on getting in on a deal to do some SCCA spec racing with Mick Robinson, unfortunately it may not pan out.

Have fun driving your car, ill be over here creating stuff and oh wait driving too

 

I'll be over here... eating breakfast

 

This thread is going down the toilet.

 

No I want a huge sway bar that I can adjust and soft springs on shocks that are correctly valved. I want the sway bar to control anti-rol and I want my shocks to control the up and down movements of the suspension per corner. That way the car is nice to drive on the street and very controlled in the corners.

You do know that by changing where the endlinks mount to the bar I can change how stiff the bar is, which effects the anti-roll way more than the actual size of the bar itself? (or changing the length of the arm conecting the bar to the endlinks) Bar size isnt the biggest factor in how stiff it is not by a long shot, a bigger bar just means its going to twist less when the load is transfered from one control arm to the other (which does make it more stiff) but isnt as effective as changing where the endlink mounting point is.

Like for instance my 30mil progress bar on the lowest setting is said to be rated at only 20% more stiff than stock while on the highest setting its somewhere over 80%.

 

Yes, moving the mounting points changes A and C on the calculator.

I still say you're oversimplifying it and it's going to turn out terrible... but if you think you've got it all under control, go for it. Nothing wrong with experimenting. I'm interested to see how it works out for you.