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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Todd's90
I'd hate to bring up this senario but is it possible they did break into the car and did put the E-brake down but after pulling it with the rear wheels spinning freely the tires eventually locked up and started to drag?
No I really doubt it. The rear tires cant lock up hard enough to prevent the back wheels from turning to were it could chew down my tires to that extent. And as far as I understand it would only lock up briefly and then continue turning since it cant physically beat the tow truck pulling it and thats were it would break... The drivetrain is likely fine.
But Id like to hear someone elses opinion on that though...

Originally Posted by mikiemike75
even though in neutral its still causeing the drive shaft to spin there for pumping fluid inside the transmissions but its not pumping and cause it to over heat... just telling you so you can look out for the obvious...
I will need a 2nd opinion on that, Im not exactly sure how it works.
I thought the driveshaft only spins because the center diff is sending power to the tcase which turns the driveshaft. The rear wheels maybe turned "some" during the car being dragged, but not enough to harm anything. The VC has to heat up to a certain point.

I think the only fluid that is relevant is that of the vicious coupler which Ive heard has plates and it heats it up and has a ton of friction when it thinks the tires are slipping? But I dont really know in detail how any of this works, I just know that since DSM uses a raw, mechanical true form of AWD, its a 50/50 split front to rear in power distrubution until a tire starts slipping ( or spinning faster than the others) so it pulls power from that tire and gives it to another to prevent the wheels from rotating differently, but does have some discrepancy to how much it can take since when you go around corners the tires rotate different speeds anyways...
Thats my current understanding.
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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Black_Bullet
No I really doubt it. The rear tires cant lock up hard enough to prevent the back wheels from turning to were it could chew down my tires to that extent. And as far as I understand it would only lock up briefly and then continue turning since it cant physically beat the tow truck pulling it and thats were it would break... The drivetrain is likely fine.



I will need a 2nd opinion on that, Im not sure how how it works.
I thought the driveshaft on spins because the center diff is sending power to the tcase which turns the driveshaft. The rear wheels maybe turned "some", but not enough to harm anything.
I think the only fluid that is relevant is that of the vicious coupler which Ive heard has plates and it all heats up and has a ton of friction when it thinks the tires are slipping? But I dont really know in detail how any of this works, I just know that its a 50/50 split front to rear in power distrubution until a tire starts slipping ( or spinning faster than the others)so it pulls power from that tire and gives it to another to prevent the wheels from rotating differently.... Thats my off understanding.
yeah, I dont understand the pure physics of it either, all I know is the basics, all the wheels have to turn at the same rate always. Period. Definetly keep this thread updated.
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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 01:39 PM
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And also guys be careful if you are ever taking your car in to the HCC apts called Hawks Landing On Dale Mabry across from the Bucs stadium.

This shiesty tow truck company ( CIS- Certified Impound services ) is on a contract with them to just snatch up peoples car in any kind of violation no matter how innocent or retarded it may be. Ive recently learned they are getting cars like hot cakes out there, even the people who are parking on the HCC dale mabry campus itself... It kind of reminds me like a bad speed trap that cops use to get people.

So what ive concluded to is Im never going back there again
(at least not in my vehicle) and I will be much more mindful parking my car because it only takes once to end up in this kind of situation.

Ive also realized that when I get some extra money to play with in the future I am going to put a pager alarm on my car. The kind that beeps you on your cell phone and your keychain to let you know somethings going on with your car. If I had one of those I wouldve just ran outside and caught them in the act and stopped them from improperly towing my car instead of sitting inside playing ps3 oblivious to whats going on...

Honestly Im not even trying to get more out of this situation, I just feel it would only be right if they at least replaced my rear tires for me... Im sure they are going to give me trouble even just about that.. Fuck this money hungry society, at least karma can be a bitch too...

If you happen to see any tow trucks that have CIS on it give em a middle finger for me
and if you have a boost leak, step on it and ink the front of his truck .lol..
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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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Ive been there a few times. But after this never going back with my car. They would rip of my front end trying to tow my car. Get the Python 990 2 way alarm w/ tilt sensor. It can reach up to a mile and beeps like a pager if anything it happening and with the tilt sensor if your becomes unlevel after set or moved it will go off. Let me know if your gonna get the alarm I can see what I can do on discounts if DEI still thinks im an employee at Circuit City.
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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 04:45 PM
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Just tell me how much you want the repair cost to be. I will bullshit them to bankruptcy. Fuck them - they didn't hesitate to fuck you. I will also call them on your behalf and tell them whatever they need to hear to start coughing up money.

Anything I can do - let me know.
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Originally Posted by Neesan
Damn bro, like I said you shoulda checked for spots like that on the tires, and you SHOULDNT have taken it, you should have left it there because now they can say they didnt do that.
this is true, you probably signed something when you took the car (idk, i've never been towed)
never, EVER take your car from ANYWHERE when works been done without giving it a once over. once you leave, all they have to say is "it wasn't like that when you left and that happened over the x number of days it was gone
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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Skip
Just tell me how much you want the repair cost to be. I will bullshit them to bankruptcy. Fuck them - they didn't hesitate to fuck you. I will also call them on your behalf and tell them whatever they need to hear to start coughing up money.
Anything I can do - let me know.
that might be best said in PM, lol (just incase)
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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 98_GstEclipse
Ive been there a few times. But after this never going back with my car. They would rip of my front end trying to tow my car. Get the Python 990 2 way alarm w/ tilt sensor. It can reach up to a mile and beeps like a pager if anything it happening and with the tilt sensor if your becomes unlevel after set or moved it will go off. Let me know if your gonna get the alarm I can see what I can do on discounts if DEI still thinks im an employee at Circuit City.
Yea I think I still have your number I will get some info about that alarm system from you later on. Sounds like the way to go.

Originally Posted by Skip
Just tell me how much you want the repair cost to be. I will bullshit them to bankruptcy. Fuck them - they didn't hesitate to fuck you. I will also call them on your behalf and tell them whatever they need to hear to start coughing up money.

Anything I can do - let me know.
Thanks, I knew id have your support with that. Good chance I wont get to take it that far or get back at them. Ive already made too many mistakes at this point.
You live and you learn right... If something comes up I will definitly contact you though.
I will probably pass by your shop sometime soon anyways, I just ordered my clutch setup tonight ( decieded to just go with the 2600 ) with all this shit going on doesnt look like Ill have the money for that 3rd gear but I am going to try to work hard at getting it while the trans is out so its a possibility. I need four new tires badly now but the cars going to be down for a couple weeks anyways so I will just hold off a little on new tires.

Originally Posted by slowy
this is true, you probably signed something when you took the car (idk, i've never been towed)
never, EVER take your car from ANYWHERE when works been done without giving it a once over. once you leave, all they have to say is "it wasn't like that when you left and that happened over the x number of days it was gone
Yea unfortunantly that may be a problem right there if we end up pursueing anything.
Admittingly I fucked up and I didnt inspect my car as thoroughly as I shouldve. Its funny because I did look at the tires, I got under the car, I popped the hood, etc but I STILL didnt see the nasty flatspots on the tires till after I got home.
Like I said the wheel was sitting ON the flatspots at the time I looked at it, plus the tires were covered in like white dust from the dirt it was dragged on but thats still my fault regardless.
I did sign the release ticket for my car, though it didnt have anything on it with any weird fine print regarding damages, it just had a box towards the bottom for driver/ vehicle owner notes and even if they tried to use that against me, its wack because I had to sign that for them to open the gate and me to get my car out anyways, so say there was a drivetrain problem I wouldnt have known till I drove off either way, so I dont know the technicalilities behind that.

But say I can get the secruity camera's proof they were improperly towing my car, then maybe... I mean the damage to the tires is evident that it was dragged x number of miles because from the looks of it, this shiesty money hungry tow truck company wont own up to anything...
My mom already has an attorney for some other shit so shes going to ask him what she can do regarding this and shes going to speak with the owner of the tow company and just see what they say.

At the very least they will be reported towards better business bureau
and that still goes against there company and that could be significant if theres already several bad reports against these guys prior to me...
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Old Oct 2, 2008 | 10:13 PM
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you were IN HCC's parking lot or an apartment complex?

my mom takes classes at HCC and they don't have any permits or anything in order to park. The only labeled parking areas are for employees--but they have a gate to go thru

EDIT: just an FYI the Python alarms do not come with the tilt sensors...they are optional accessories
http://www.pythoncarsecurity.com/
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Old Oct 3, 2008 | 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by chillllll
EDIT: just an FYI the Python alarms do not come with the tilt sensors...they are optional accessories
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Thats what I meant. Its the worth the extra money tho.
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