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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Buri3d
HAHA crankwalk? its a 420a motor.
any motor can crankwalk.
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Old Jul 5, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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The 420a crankwalks about 1 out of every million...

4g63 guys hear it and shiver, tell it to a 420a owner and they might not even know what you're talking about. I can't even search every forum I know for 2gnt's and find someone that had it happen to them.

roffle waffles tho, fact of matter is any car can cw
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by WhiteFwdsm
Something is either disconnected or loose. Especially if you say the battery is fine and the starter is grounded correctly and has power. The starter should turn when you turn the key unless you have a short somewhere. Check all your connections again. It still could be a bad ground. Is the starter making any noise when you try to start the car?
So I must have a short somewhere. I checked the relays and they seem fine. The starter is grounded ive checked it with a mulitmeter. if the ground was faulty could that still cause it to cliam its grounded but not be good enough to start?
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by XMasta19
Your starter isn't even engaging, thus the car not even cranking. If either of the relays on the firewall (ASD and fuel pump) weren't working, the car would crank and crank but not start. I bet if you jumped the battery power terminals and ground on the starter, it would fire right up. If that's the case, then you simply need to track down the open in your starter circuit. Are you sure all of the fuses and fusible links are good? Did you simply look at them, or did you verify their condition with a multimeter?

EDIT: If you have a dmm, then it's very easy to figure this out. First thing I would do is check if you have 12v at the starter power wire from the battery. Verify the ground is secure as well as the signal connection that might have popped off or loose.
yes all fuses are good and the starter is getting roughly 27v from the battery.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 07:56 PM
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umm...27v from the battery?!?
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by XMasta19
umm...27v from the battery?!?
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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 05:04 AM
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Woah, if you battery is producing 27v there is your problem. Should be around 12-13 volts. How is it giving the starter 27v? Are you sure your checking any of this right?

We've given you all the possibilities...

Come back and give a list of what you checked and what you found. So far we keep telling you the samething but your not giving us any feedback on those things.

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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 05:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Buri3d
So I must have a short somewhere. I checked the relays and they seem fine. The starter is grounded ive checked it with a mulitmeter. if the ground was faulty could that still cause it to cliam its grounded but not be good enough to start?
In any case a ground could be a bad ground. Easy fix would be replacing that ground wire or checking over the connection.

You need to go over everything you pulled/unplugged. You may have missed something.

Is your car a 5-speed? If so... you could also have a bad saftey neutral switch. When you press the clutch down its not reading the connection hence not starting the car. Could also be the clutch arm is not pressing on the switch. If you look under your dash where the clutch pedal is at you'll will notice (2) plugs that are push button switches that the clutch arm pushes on. I don't remember which one it is but one of those could be faulty or not getting a good enough pressure/connection off the clutch pedal.

If you car is an automatic, then do you have your car in (P) Park? If so, then I don't know what else to tell you here.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 02:24 PM
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Sorry about the long time since Ive posted i just got back in to town. Turns out I've been using the continuity setting to get the 27 "volts" So thats embarrasing. Anyways using the correct setting I get only 10 volts, Is that to low to start the car? If I can find my jumper cables I will try to jump it. and I will be back in 30 with a conclusion if I found them. I also checked the wire on the starter the makes it engage, its giving power when you turn the key (sorry dont know the name of it I beleive it comes from the ignition) so that rules out the ignition. I see the clutch depression "button" How would I check if its working? and if the wire I just checked is giving the started power the the key is turned, doesnt that rule out the safety nuetral switch and the clutch "button" ?
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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Damn it can't find jumper cables. I'll buy some tomorrow morning.
P.S. Ignore the nuetral safety switch thing my cars a manual
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