Looking into - '93 Eclipse GS 2.0 dohc
I'm looking into the car in title... it's a 5 speed, with only 54k on it.
My question is - are these cars generally good? I'm thinking of just trading in my car for said Mitsubishi as our friend has it at his dealership. I'm looking for something more reliable with less miles (than my 158k) and that gets better gas mileage.
Any known problems to watch out for with these cars?
And, most importantly, does this car have any power whatsoever? I know it only has 135hp but I'm thinking since it's light and 5 speed might help it out a little bit? My car has enough power for me now (weighs 3300lbs, 190hp@200ft-lb with a turbo) and I don't want to go into anything too much slower.
Thanks guys. This is the car in question:



As you can see, car is very clean
My question is - are these cars generally good? I'm thinking of just trading in my car for said Mitsubishi as our friend has it at his dealership. I'm looking for something more reliable with less miles (than my 158k) and that gets better gas mileage.
Any known problems to watch out for with these cars?
And, most importantly, does this car have any power whatsoever? I know it only has 135hp but I'm thinking since it's light and 5 speed might help it out a little bit? My car has enough power for me now (weighs 3300lbs, 190hp@200ft-lb with a turbo) and I don't want to go into anything too much slower.
Thanks guys. This is the car in question:



As you can see, car is very clean
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Turbo ECU or SAFC (to better control the fuel curve)
Turbo intake cam
Stronger Clutch
Exhuast manifold
Turbo
O2 Housing
Downpipe
Side Mount Intercooler, BOV, And all Piping
Knock sensor
MAS from a turbo 1g or a converted 2g MAS
Fuel Pressure Regulator (aftermarket)
450cc or larger fuel injectors and fuel pump
Boost Gauge, EFT Gauge, Air to Fuel Ratio Gauge
Stronger Pistons and rings (either forged(9.0:1) or 2g(8.5:1) or EVO(8.7:1))
MLS Metal head gasket
Pasted from another site...to convert it to turbo.....not really worth the hassle otherwise its a bit slow...you'll get good gas milage though.
Turbo intake cam
Stronger Clutch
Exhuast manifold
Turbo
O2 Housing
Downpipe
Side Mount Intercooler, BOV, And all Piping
Knock sensor
MAS from a turbo 1g or a converted 2g MAS
Fuel Pressure Regulator (aftermarket)
450cc or larger fuel injectors and fuel pump
Boost Gauge, EFT Gauge, Air to Fuel Ratio Gauge
Stronger Pistons and rings (either forged(9.0:1) or 2g(8.5:1) or EVO(8.7:1))
MLS Metal head gasket
Pasted from another site...to convert it to turbo.....not really worth the hassle otherwise its a bit slow...you'll get good gas milage though.
Thats not clean, thats immaculate!!!
and what exactly is your question? Are you asking if the car has potential as far what? Compared to your volvo? You'll be slower but your saving gas
and what exactly is your question? Are you asking if the car has potential as far what? Compared to your volvo? You'll be slower but your saving gas
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most importantly, does this car have any power whatsoever?
Is what I was responding to but to answer your other question, Yes the n/t models hold up well if u take care of them and with those low miles it should run great for a very long time just remember to get those check ups.
Is what I was responding to but to answer your other question, Yes the n/t models hold up well if u take care of them and with those low miles it should run great for a very long time just remember to get those check ups.
yes very nice cars, not the best in the HP department but my buddy and i built an NT and it was fast enought to keep up with lightly modded hondas, pacesetter header, 2.5" exhause no cat, intake, rebuilt head, shaved and milled, stock internals, centerforce clutch and bam ran awesome till he ghetto rigged a jetta coil over set up on to it, and slamed it so low to the ground he had to disconnect the sway bars. after that the car went to shit.
My first car (and current daily driver) was a '93 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS. I've had it since 2000. I bought my car with twice the miles that are on the car you're looking at. It has been very reliable, though (that's why it's still my daily driver).
It's not fast at all. If your Volvo is 3300 lbs and making 190 hp, this is a big drop off, as you're almost only looking at a power loss (they weight difference isn't much). My turbo 1g weighed about that much and made the same kind of power - there's no comparison.
The best gas mileage I've gotten has been 21 mpg. I wouldn't consider that good gas mileage. Maybe you do. That's driving at about 30% throttle and shifting at 2.5k RPMs. That's also driving at 55 mph in 40-50 mph zones and 70 mph on the highway.
I think one of reasons the car has been so reliable (besides the rigorous maitenance schedule I keep - I have records (including receipts) of every oil change, coolant flush, brake pad replacement, spark plug replacement, etc. as well as repairs and modifications) is my driving technique rivals that of an 80 year old woman. I almost always drive at ~ 30% throttle and shift at 2.5k RPMs (this is probably why I've never needed to replace my clutch). You'll be faster if you wind into higher RPMs, but that will be at the expense of gas mileage on a car that doesn't get great gas mileage (relative to compact four cylinders) as it is.
The only major (internal) repair the car has required is a transmission rebuild. And, again, the car had significantly more miles on it than the one you're looking at. Other than that, everything has been regular maintenance (oil change, coolant flush, brakes, tire rotation, plugs, fuel filter, air filter, timing belt, etc.).
As far as I know, there's nothing on this car that you should expect to fail earlier than it would on another car. The timing procedure is the same (more or less) as a turbo 1g - that might scare you (IDK).
So:
- these cars are generally good, but the gas mileage isn't great (18-21 mpg)
- no known problems of which I'm aware. The transmissions can be finicky, but if yours isn't, and you drive nicely, it won't be for a long time.
- the car is slow (I think high 16s in the 1/4 mile). Mine has a 2.25" cat-back and an intake with a K%N filter. It has these mods for cosmetic reasons only (the exhaust had a leak and I had access to this catback with polished SS muffler, so I had it welded on...the intake pipe and K&N filter were $30 and look prettier than the stock setup, so I swapped). I'm sure I gained power in an RPM range that I hardly ever reach, but it's not much. So, it makes 135 hp and weighs ~ 3200 lbs. You figure it out.
It's not fast at all. If your Volvo is 3300 lbs and making 190 hp, this is a big drop off, as you're almost only looking at a power loss (they weight difference isn't much). My turbo 1g weighed about that much and made the same kind of power - there's no comparison.
The best gas mileage I've gotten has been 21 mpg. I wouldn't consider that good gas mileage. Maybe you do. That's driving at about 30% throttle and shifting at 2.5k RPMs. That's also driving at 55 mph in 40-50 mph zones and 70 mph on the highway.
I think one of reasons the car has been so reliable (besides the rigorous maitenance schedule I keep - I have records (including receipts) of every oil change, coolant flush, brake pad replacement, spark plug replacement, etc. as well as repairs and modifications) is my driving technique rivals that of an 80 year old woman. I almost always drive at ~ 30% throttle and shift at 2.5k RPMs (this is probably why I've never needed to replace my clutch). You'll be faster if you wind into higher RPMs, but that will be at the expense of gas mileage on a car that doesn't get great gas mileage (relative to compact four cylinders) as it is.
The only major (internal) repair the car has required is a transmission rebuild. And, again, the car had significantly more miles on it than the one you're looking at. Other than that, everything has been regular maintenance (oil change, coolant flush, brakes, tire rotation, plugs, fuel filter, air filter, timing belt, etc.).
As far as I know, there's nothing on this car that you should expect to fail earlier than it would on another car. The timing procedure is the same (more or less) as a turbo 1g - that might scare you (IDK).
So:
- these cars are generally good, but the gas mileage isn't great (18-21 mpg)
- no known problems of which I'm aware. The transmissions can be finicky, but if yours isn't, and you drive nicely, it won't be for a long time.
- the car is slow (I think high 16s in the 1/4 mile). Mine has a 2.25" cat-back and an intake with a K%N filter. It has these mods for cosmetic reasons only (the exhaust had a leak and I had access to this catback with polished SS muffler, so I had it welded on...the intake pipe and K&N filter were $30 and look prettier than the stock setup, so I swapped). I'm sure I gained power in an RPM range that I hardly ever reach, but it's not much. So, it makes 135 hp and weighs ~ 3200 lbs. You figure it out.
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