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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JDMevo
I'm racist yeah okay because I was mocking an idiot on here that makes me racist? My bestfriend is black, my fiancee is white. I'm hispanic... so how am I racist? You obviously don't know me that well then.
If you're not, then your posts were just thoughtless. When you reply to someone calling you "nigga" with "I'm not black but keep trying," the implication is that you believe black skinned people are "niggas."
In any event, your other responses to "cracka, nigga, gay" talk were equally suspicious.

I don't know I've seen some spend 3 times the money of what the car is really worth so I mean this of course is everyone's opinion.
What does this prove? This says nothing about what the build cost would be for your average 12 second GSX.
Incidentally, weren't you one of those people once upon a time?

I will do this though, I'm planning on turboing the 420a... starting with the stock internals then doing an actual build. After all that I will post how much I got my car for and how much I spent so then its aware of what the average is to boosting a 420a. The only reason people say its a waste is because turbo owners think that 420a owners go buy a HRC turbo kit which is like $3,000. You can actually build one for $1,000-$1,300 and upgrade and build from there.
First, what you spend isn't the average, by definition. It's what you spent.
Second, I don't believe its a waste. It's a choice.

But yeah turbo pistons/rods for the 4g63t and 420a are around the same price.
I'm not quite sure what you're getting at here, but inasmuch as I think I have an idea, I'll respond accordingly.
The point to be made here is that if you have a 4g63, you don't have to worry about internals for a track car until 400-500hp. This is not the case for the 420a, as you know.
So, the cost for rods and pistons on the 4g63 are $0.00, and thus < pistons/rods for the 420a.

I also didn't state build cost, I said in general. A 4g63t is a high maintence vehicle and is more prone for something to go wrong... sometimes small sometimes drastic. So in turn you end up spending more then what the car is worth just like the 420a owners.
This is a poor analysis. It will cost more money in total to build a 420a to comparable performance levels with a 4g63. At that point, reliability comparisons will be likely a wash, as you're now dealing with two high hp vehicles being pushed by their owners.
Further, a 4g63 is hardly a high maintenance vehicle (although I will concede that even a stock 4g63 requires more maintenance than your average Honda or Toyota), but a highly modded turbo vehicle certainly is. There is no measurable reliability difference between a 4g63 and any other turbo motor (and if there is, it has not been established through study, only speculation). Finally, almost every 4g63 problem can be attributed to overworking the engine without a solid tune, age, a piss-poor mechanic (owner or otherwise), or poor maintenance. The same can be said for most engines, but the 420a, ironically, is not one of them (see TSB headgasket).
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Yes, true I was a 4g63t owner once. With that said I'm not bashing on it or its owners. I just don't like the fact of the bashing on the 420a. When were obviously all into the same car. Yes they came in different platforms but its still the same car exterior/interior. Sorry if my thoughtless comments seemed that way but that was not my intentions. I said I wasn't black because saying it in the content it was said would be outright rude and uncalled for. I wouldn't want anyone calling me a spic but if they did and I wasn't hispanic I would of said the samething "I'm not hispanic but keep trying" not saying the 2 words go together but its meaning is related to a hispanic person. I know for a fact I'm not racist and will never be, I hate racist people and it bothers me when someone uses terms as he did. Again all I was doing is mocking him with no racist intentions. Your other statements I will not respond to because I agree and the little things I don't agree with is really not needed to be discussed. Everyone has their opinions and if this thread was the purpose of the different aspects of the 4g63t and 420a without any bashing it would of turned out to be an informative thread. When someone titles it what they titled it and commented the way they did, you can only expect the same from other individuals especially the individuals that own whats getting bashed on.
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mars_302
umm correct me if im wrong, but later year SIs had a b16 from the factory.......
yes but noone cares about those SI's because they are heavy and have a weaksauce motor (b16).
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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I love wasting money.... Im also apparently on heavy drugs since i own and mod a 420a ....... fuck it.
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Originally Posted by AnthrAxNSB
The other nonsense doesn't concern me because I have no interest in those fools. I'm suprised by you, though.
So you pick and choose which fools are of concern?

Not sure why you are surprised by him, every character he utters is lined with bs.

Old Mar 26, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 2gntTalon
I love wasting money.... Im also apparently on heavy drugs since i own and mod a 420a ....... fuck it.
Admitting there is a problem is the first step
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by VeRTigO
Theres not much difference between a RS and a pinto my friend
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by VeRTigO
So you pick and choose which fools are of concern?

Not sure why you are surprised by him, every character he utters is lined with bs.

I'm friends with Cory. So he actually knows me. He's surprised I actually let something so stupid bother me. So he's not picking/nor selecting nor did he stick up for a "friend" and I agree he shouldn't because most of what I said was wrong and I know I'm not that type of individual. Just get bothered real easily about this online bs.
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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Anywho I cleaned up the stupid things I posted and kept the few that seemed to fit this thread. Again I'm not racist, so lets throw that one out the door. Pin-pointing or making it seem like someone is a racist really ruins someones reputation and I'm letting everyone know right now I'm not. I've already contacted the right individuals to take care of this thread and to try to see the individuals who take no part in Mitsu Tech to be taken care of. We'll see what happens but this all could of been avoided. Don't see how this goes with Mitsubishi Tech but hey some think so. You own the car, you don't deal with the motor... it really needs to be dropped. The bashing began right after out "Who's car is who meet" thread. We've never had this problem before and its obviously seen exactly who started it and who is to blame. Vertigo can you please get out of Mitsu Tech if you have nothing to contribute positively and go to Nissan Tech now that you own Nissans. Start drama there, leave us alone.

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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 05:56 PM
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holy shit did this thread blow up....i dont see whats up for discussion here, i mean its totally obvious that the 4G63 platform performancewise blows the 420a out of the water in every way shape and form...period, the gs and rs were put out there for someone who wanted the look but were willing to give up the performance for lower cost (or they were buying it for their teenage daughter)...and you get an AWD option with the turbo model, sweeeet!
anyone who truly believes that the same amount of boost on a 420a against the 4G63 will result in the 420A winning, i will gladly take on any 420a car running at least 11 psi of boost (thats the lowest my wastegate will let me run) and prove that null and void real quick
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