Mazda Tech If your Mazda is a brap brap,or a zoom zoom, then this is your place.

A few questions for my FC rebuild/redo...

Thread Tools
 
Old Sep 25, 2011 | 12:51 PM
  #1 (permalink)  
*SoSimple*TSI's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 293
Likes: 0
Default A few questions for my FC rebuild/redo...

I am rebuilding an 88 TurboII. I have been trying to hunt down a descent (original) swap to put into the car, but Ive had no luck just yet.

So basically I have an 87 NA 13b going into it. The engine has higher mileage, but its a full running swap that I took out of my 87 GXL.

While I have it out.. these are the things I am looking to change/eliminate/fix.

1. Oil squirters.. How "simple" of a task is this. I am aware that I will have to premix my fuel after, but
what are the pros/cons and pains about removing the setup.

2. What are the sensors/wires on the side of the trans.. I know that one has to be the shift light
sensor and the mechanical speedo is down there too, but im unsire of the 2 sets of wires that are
on both sides of the tranny.

3. Is it possible to run a periphial port style intake on an engine that has not had a port job. I have a
friend that can fab alot of things and I was wondering if this would be any benificial to "opening" up
an NA car.

Any help, insight or ideas are greatly appreciated..

Thanks.
Bryan
__________________
Reply
Old Sep 25, 2011 | 12:53 PM
  #2 (permalink)  
*SoSimple*TSI's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 293
Likes: 0
Default

Looks like my spacing is just a bit off...
__________________
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2011 | 04:16 AM
  #3 (permalink)  
landon303's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 723
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by *SoSimple*TSI
I am rebuilding an 88 TurboII. I have been trying to hunt down a descent (original) swap to put into the car, but Ive had no luck just yet.

So basically I have an 87 NA 13b going into it. The engine has higher mileage, but its a full running swap that I took out of my 87 GXL.

While I have it out.. these are the things I am looking to change/eliminate/fix.

1. Oil squirters.. How "simple" of a task is this. I am aware that I will have to premix my fuel after, but
what are the pros/cons and pains about removing the setup.

2. What are the sensors/wires on the side of the trans.. I know that one has to be the shift light
sensor and the mechanical speedo is down there too, but im unsire of the 2 sets of wires that are
on both sides of the tranny.

3. Is it possible to run a periphial port style intake on an engine that has not had a port job. I have a
friend that can fab alot of things and I was wondering if this would be any benificial to "opening" up
an NA car.

Any help, insight or ideas are greatly appreciated..

Thanks.
Bryan
1) oil squirters: oil "injectors" is a better term. It's simply putting a blockoff plate on the front cover where the OMP attaches, running plugs into the 4 OMP holes in the engine/LIM, and capping the vac leak(s) Pros: you now know FOR SURE that you're getting proper oil w/ the 2 stroke. It burns cleaner, & keeps the inside of the engine well kept. The housings last longer

Cons: you have to spend extra time @ the pump filling up, & if you have an interior you care about, you'll get oil on it. Also oil on your hands most likely. There is now ZERO lubrication on decel, because it goes into fuel cut, and no fuel = no oil since it's all mixed in.

2) Speedo, neutral switch, 5th/reverse. Check FSM

3)what? no
__________________
engine, not motor
Reply
Old Sep 27, 2011 | 06:57 PM
  #4 (permalink)  
*SoSimple*TSI's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 293
Likes: 0
Default

Thanks for the info. Well as for the injectors, I will be leaving them for now. Im going to try and get a PDF of the trans so i can rewire everything the right way.

And well for number 3... it was just a thought. I really want to get a T2 swap in, but Ill just have to wait.
__________________
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2011 | 02:54 AM
  #5 (permalink)  
Monsta13B's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 437
Likes: 0
Default

landon wouldnt there still be some amount of fuel on decel even after the fuel cut, otherwise wouldnt the engine just stall out with no fuel? I would think that if you had the clutch in on decel and the car was running at idle that there would be sufficient oil getting in there. Or are you talking about decel as in engine braking?
__________________
Tampa Bay Rotary Owners Club Member # I have no idea!!!!
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2011 | 03:11 AM
  #6 (permalink)  
landon303's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 723
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Monsta13B
landon wouldnt there still be some amount of fuel on decel even after the fuel cut, otherwise wouldnt the engine just stall out with no fuel? I would think that if you had the clutch in on decel and the car was running at idle that there would be sufficient oil getting in there. Or are you talking about decel as in engine braking?
decel as in engine braking
__________________
engine, not motor
Reply
Old Sep 28, 2011 | 05:48 PM
  #7 (permalink)  
Monsta13B's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 437
Likes: 0
Default

oh ok lol, i dont know really what fuel cut defencers can do but can you use them to maybe stop that issue or do they just work as far as WOT fuel cut type shit
__________________
Tampa Bay Rotary Owners Club Member # I have no idea!!!!
Reply
Old Oct 10, 2011 | 05:05 AM
  #8 (permalink)  
NI_racing's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 1,334
Likes: 0
Default

I believe its just a WOT deal Matt.
As far as the dangers of no lube on decel due to fuel cut and premix... as long as you know that its occurring inside your engine you shouldnt have to much of a problem... Me personally.. i like to tap the throttle in between down shifting/engine breaking etc. I like the way my engines sound so i enjoy hearing them and i feel its easier on the engine itself to keep it on a more gradual pace than just cutting it off from WOT or "spirited driving". Its all driver preference tho. You really shouldnt have any issues with the decel/lube conflict tho, as long as your not being an idiot...
__________________



Tampa Bay Rotary Owners Club Member # 4
__________________
PIT KREW
TEAM MEMBER
________________
Team Decep!
you never saw it coming
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2011 | 08:22 AM
  #9 (permalink)  
boostjunky's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Default

Is their a specific premix ratio ? or rule of thumb when mixing the 2 cycle oil in a rotary or is it the same as whats on the bottle?
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2011 | 10:36 AM
  #10 (permalink)  
landon303's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 723
Likes: 0
Default

1 ounce/gallon
__________________
engine, not motor
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
RubberBerner
Nissan/Infiniti Tech
5
Oct 19, 2006 10:19 AM
mafro
Honda/Acura Tech
6
Feb 6, 2006 08:29 PM
TotalEclipse
Mitsubishi Tech
9
May 2, 2002 05:33 AM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:36 AM.