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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by X-clusive
stop misinforming this guy, the mx-3 is a very durable and AFFORDABLE platform. My setup including the car cost me less than my friends type r swap and i'm WAAAYYYY faster than him to say the least..........

theres a few swaps you can do, here they are:

kl-ze=2.5L v6 swap pushes out about 180whp/tq
bp-ze=1.8L 4 cyl pushes out about 130whp/tq, easy and cheap swap
bp-zet=JDM 1.8L 4 cyl turbo from a 323 gtx in most cases, rarely a gtr pushes out about 180whp/tq if its a gtx, 210whp/tq if its a gtr
b6t=1.6 turbo dohc out of a 1st generation 323 gtx, pushes out about 160whp/tq

aftermarket support isnt anywhere near a honda, but once you swap you have much more aftermarket support seeing as you can use miata parts for the 4cyl swaps. Car handles great, is very light, unique, damn sexy if done up right. If you dont like fwd, you can make an mx-3 awd. Lates and good luck.
LOL you tell me I'm misinforming when you spew this crap? right.

Sure you can get a gtx/gtr swap. Good fuckin luck finding one though

AWD???? lets not be retarded ok? Its never going to happen...

I had a MX-3 for a few years, there really isn't that much support for the car and for someone that is looking for the support and aftermarket anywhere close to a Honda the only Mazdas that are anywhere near that are the RX-7's and the Miatas.

And you can't use many Miata parts, that is very false to state. The car may share the same 1.6, but its in a totally different configuration from the Miata. Most all parts will NOT swap over.

Don't try and make the car out to be more than it seems, it takes a LOT of work and money to make it quick and it HAS to involve a swap everytime.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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ok smart guy, the only difference between the protege bp's and miata bps are that you guys have solid lifters as opposed to hydraulic and your cam profiles are different. Many people swap to the miata head to rev higher. A gtx swap can be EASILY found, if you cant find one you are retarded. A gtr swap is another story. I dont make the car out to be more than it is, i say the car has potential and you make it out to be a POS. I've had my mx-3 for awhile, so dont try to teach me about a car that i know every last nut and bolt about. All the swaps i listed are respectable seeing as the car runs 17s stock and all the swaps i listed about are 15sec and below swaps. Theres nothing wrong with swapping a motor. Oh and AWD has been done on an mx-3 on a few occasions, i'd be more than happy to make you feel crunchy and post the link so everyone can see it and you can look like a moron, or i can PM you the link and you can feel like a moron by your lonesome, you choose. Lates
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:20 PM
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Wow your such an idiot, i have a spare motor im building from majority of miata parts, i dont know what the hell you are talking about. You obviously know nothing about your car as well as other mazdas, i bet you paid to get your turbo kit put on huh pretty boy? I've said what i needed to say, you post all this false information but when i confront you, you have no information to contradict me. Like i said i have links to back up my claims, you have just stated a biased opinion. Lates
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by X-clusive
ok smart guy, the only difference between the protege bp's and miata bps are that you guys have solid lifters as opposed to hydraulic and your cam profiles are different. Many people swap to the miata head to rev higher.
fwiw most Miatas have hydraulic lifters, not until 99+ did that change and the only head that would work would be the 99/00 head.

A gtx swap can be EASILY found, if you cant find one you are retarded. A gtr swap is another story.
exactly my point, everyone points out the GTR swap and gets everyones hopes up, fact is there is hardly anyone that has actually done that swap because coming across that motor is like finding a needle in a haystack.

I dont make the car out to be more than it is, i say the car has potential and you make it out to be a POS. I've had my mx-3 for awhile, so dont try to teach me about a car that i know every last nut and bolt about.
Buddy I'm sure I know the car just as well as you did, I used to own one and did several swaps back in the day when the first V6s were first being done and the first BPs were being swapped in. BEEN THERE, DONE THAT.

All the swaps i listed are respectable seeing as the car runs 17s stock and all the swaps i listed about are 15sec and below swaps. Theres nothing wrong with swapping a motor.
Never said there was anything wrong with swapping the motor, but it is almost a requirment to do so to get ANY power from that car.

Oh and AWD has been done on an mx-3 on a few occasions
sure its been done, but there again its something totally RARE. Hell there has been a 20B MX-3 so thats possible. But it was a drag car, not exactly a MX-3 aside from the look.

I'm not trying to be a dick, but its really a car that has limited support and you really have to be passionate about one to own one and do the work. Its just that all the owners get caught up and try to get everyone else to buy the car and when they do they just get disappointed when they figure out all the work it takes.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by X-clusive
Wow your such an idiot, i have a spare motor im building from majority of miata parts, i dont know what the hell you are talking about.
Did you just listen to a word I said? They aren't "Miata parts". They are BP parts. I could say I built my engine with Protege parts but you're missing the point. The engines are very different. For one the ignition is distributor vs. coil packs, the head flows differently, coolant is circulated in the other direction, the cams are different, the compression is different, etc.

You obviously know nothing about your car as well as other mazdas, i bet you paid to get your turbo kit put on huh pretty boy?
wow I didn't think you were that ignorant, but you surprise me again. I bet I know more about BP motors that you will ever know. And I did all the work to my car myself in my garage genious
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:34 PM
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haha, man i'm done with this debate. I was being brief about the similarities and differences, if i wanted to elaborate this thread would be on a 2nd page. I dont get anyones hopes up, i just am real and tell them the truth instead of making it seem like a nightmare which it really isnt. I really could careless, i just hate the fact that your portraying the car like an idiot. Do you want a cookie cuz you were there for the first v6 swap and bp swap (which i highly doubt)? things have change ALOT since then buddy. I bet you were at lincoln's funeral too huh? Anyways, smart guy i have worked and built more bp's than you know. I mean for god sakes, you know so much about bp's that your only on 6psi and running without an intercooler, a big man you are now. Anyway, i've heard enough, see ya around. Lates
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:43 PM
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Do you want a cookie cuz you were there for the first v6 swap and bp swap (which i highly doubt)? things have change ALOT since then buddy.
oh my god you are the dumbest fucker alive. I didn't say I did the first swaps idiot, but I was around and doing swaps back when they were first being done. For fucks sake can't you read?

Anyways, smart guy i have worked and built more bp's than you know. I mean for god sakes, you know so much about bp's that your only on 6psi and running without an intercooler, a big man you are now.
What does what I'm running have anything to do with this? I've had big power cars before and don't want another one right now.

Got that BIG guy? How much power you making with that MX anyways? Whats the whole setup? Just curious to see what all has changed since my so called ancient days...
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:50 PM
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haha, im making enough power on my new setup, should yield about 300+whp/tq if tuned right. I can read you bastard and if you say you've "been there done that", please elaborate on what you have done to an mx-3 along with the swaps, keyword being ELABORATE.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by X-clusive
haha, im making enough power on my new setup, should yield about 300+whp/tq if tuned right. I can read you bastard and if you say you've "been there done that", please elaborate on what you have done to an mx-3 along with the swaps, keyword being ELABORATE.
I helped do 2 kl-03 swaps in a 92 and a 93 as well as a kl-ze swap into a 94 gs. Also did one BP swap into another 94 which was later turbo'd. I didn't do the turbo on that car, but I did the swap. Also helped turbo one of the B6 dohc in a 95.

Is that enough? Like I've said I've done the swaps. I used to be real big into MX-3's back in the day.

Look, I said I'm not trying to be a dick but you aren't the only guy on TR that knows BPs or MX-3s ok?
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Fritchard
I helped do 2 kl-03 swaps in a 92 and a 93 as well as a kl-ze swap into a 94 gs. Also did one BP swap into another 94 which was later turbo'd. I didn't do the turbo on that car, but I did the swap. Also helped turbo one of the B6 dohc in a 95.

Is that enough? Like I've said I've done the swaps. I used to be real big into MX-3's back in the day.

Look, I said I'm not trying to be a dick but you aren't the only guy on TR that knows BPs or MX-3s ok?
thats all nice and dandy. I never said i was the only guy on TR that knows BPs or MX-3's now did i? Like i said things have changed, ppl are pushing the limits much more than before. Your close minded and false statements aren't helping much for those that might actually like the car and make something of it. Miatas and rx-7's arent the only mazdas worth while like you make it out to be. With that being said good luck on your miata, let me know if you ever wanna run. Lates.
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