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HAVIK 03-04-2006 04:20 PM

Miata engine swap
 
what kind of engine swaps can you put into a miata with little to no modifacations.

Fritchard 03-04-2006 07:34 PM

only the 1.6 or 1.8 the car came with.

willjs7 03-04-2006 08:23 PM

rb26det, 2jz-gte, ls6, ls7, 383 stroker, 351

j/k... what he said ^^^

V6RACER 03-17-2006 07:06 PM

www.monstermiata.com

Jordan T 03-17-2006 10:01 PM

throw in a 13b

CrypticApathy 03-17-2006 10:04 PM

ive seen miatas with 13b 13bt engines and a common swap is sr20det engine in it, but since thats a nissan engine you gotta do some serious wiring shit.

ive i had the knowledge and the money id like to do a 13bt swap in a miata.

Rotary7 03-18-2006 12:50 AM

Just like Fritchard said,but turbo it.

Anyother swap you will be an easy 5k start,to the swap.

willjs7 03-18-2006 08:18 AM

turbo the stock motor, its a good strong motor, im almost positive its iron block closed deck. im sure it would love boost ;).. not too sure on the internals though

Fritchard 03-18-2006 08:24 AM


Originally Posted by willjs7
turbo the stock motor, its a good strong motor, im almost positive its iron block closed deck. im sure it would love boost ;).. not too sure on the internals though

yeah it is closed deck, internals vary by year. If you want to boost it stick with 94-97 1.8L as it had stronger rods good for 15psi easily or if you get a 1.6L car they are just as well. The 99+ motors have weaker rods only good for ~10psi or so as well as higher compression and a way better flowing head which is why they can make similar HP with less boost.

Tom Cruise 03-21-2006 10:27 AM

If you want SUPER power that's somewhat affordable to swap and maintain go with a 5.0 Ford conversion. That's scary power in a Miata.

Or look into the coldside Ubercharger at Flyin' Miata, it seems to be the rage these days.

autoxtii 02-05-2008 04:25 PM

a 302 miata runs 12.60 with a bolt ons 302, that wouldent be nearly enuf for me.
theres a company selling compleat bolt in kits for the lsx motors. all u need is motor tranny ecu and harness.
kit includes front k member, steering shaft, custom headers for the lsx, drive shaft, tranny cross member, rear subframe with a ford 8.8 irs rear, subframe conectors so it dosnt buckle under a 200hp gain.
i think they want 3500 for the kit. add 3000 for a ls1 with tranny 200 for the painless wiring harnnes and about 150 for an ecu. 6850 bucks and with a good driver the car will do 11.60s the great thing about lsx motors is they hold tons of power on stock internals so u can by a 350 dollar cam, shave the heads down and make near 400 hit it with a 150 shot and u got a nasty roll car.

Captain Fap'n 02-05-2008 04:42 PM

I've got a 1994 Miata R package 1.8l 400Hp fully built motor pistons,rods,bearings etc with Turbonetics T3 w/ .60 trim wheel, 6 speed manual from a 2004,rebuilt rear end, ECU flyin' miata program. Falken Azenis on 16" rims,brakes are from a 99 model with carbon tech brakes pads, bilstein suspension w/ coil overs. hard dog hardcore rollbar keeps it rigid with little no no body flex. and the powers being held by a flyin' miata clutch and flywheel. not to mention that I'm getting near 30mpg and even closer to 40mpg while running toluene. running a water to air intercooler and its keeping the car cool at 90 degrees Celsius.


now tell me why you would want to swap a perfectly good motor?

Jewbu 02-06-2008 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by DriftingFC3S (Post 5083305)
I've got a 1994 Miata R package 1.8l 400Hp fully built motor pistons,rods,bearings etc with Turbonetics T3 w/ .60 trim wheel, 6 speed manual from a 2004,rebuilt rear end, ECU flyin' miata program. Falken Azenis on 16" rims,brakes are from a 99 model with carbon tech brakes pads, bilstein suspension w/ coil overs. hard dog hardcore rollbar keeps it rigid with little no no body flex. and the powers being held by a flyin' miata clutch and flywheel. not to mention that I'm getting near 30mpg and even closer to 40mpg while running toluene. running a water to air intercooler and its keeping the car cool at 90 degrees Celsius.


now tell me why you would want to swap a perfectly good motor?

very nice ^^^

Captain Fap'n 02-06-2008 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by Jewbu (Post 5086056)
very nice ^^^

why thank you kind sir

Jewbu 02-06-2008 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by DriftingFC3S (Post 5086422)
why thank you kind sir

your welcome

i just purchased a 95 and would definately like to be running some numbers like that in the future.A friend of mine had a Pettit Racing Miata a few years back and it definately got my attention.Very fun ride

Captain Fap'n 02-06-2008 04:36 PM

^^ are you coming to the mazda meet at ft desoto? if so i'll show you the setup and whatnot

Jewbu 02-06-2008 08:27 PM

pmed ya

yeah I am going to try and make it out there

MazdaMX3Freak 02-07-2008 06:42 AM

klze /w rx7 tranny ftmfw!!!!

Rx7_guy 02-07-2008 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by willjs7 (Post 2999883)
rb26det, 2jz-gte, ls6, ls7, 383 stroker, 351

j/k... what he said ^^^


U do realize how small the Miata is. I don't think you could easily put a ls7 or 351 in such a car. Even if you could it would be pointless the car would not hold traction

Topher 02-12-2008 04:42 AM

why swap at all ? save $ build what you have.

rexaholic7 02-12-2008 06:11 PM

make it diesel and call it a day. lol

Puto 02-16-2008 11:04 PM

cottdamn this thread is old.


13BT

rexaholic7 02-17-2008 12:17 PM

grave diggin like a mofuka

GuardianDevil 12-12-2008 11:06 PM

I have an mk1 1.6 do u think I can drop a type r unit in there?
I'd love one of the new ones but if I get a cheap one from the previous integra type r 1.8 I'd still be really happy. will it need a lot of work though?

tito_12a 12-13-2008 03:05 AM


Originally Posted by GuardianDevil (Post 6102902)
I have an mk1 1.6 do u think I can drop a type r unit in there?
I'd love one of the new ones but if I get a cheap one from the previous integra type r 1.8 I'd still be really happy. will it need a lot of work though?

are you fucking serious ?

Niburu 12-15-2008 04:33 AM


Originally Posted by tito_12a (Post 6102996)
are you fucking serious ?

look at his post count

Niburu 12-15-2008 04:39 AM


Originally Posted by Rx7_guy (Post 5090684)
U do realize how small the Miata is. I don't think you could easily put a ls7 or 351 in such a car. Even if you could it would be pointless the car would not hold traction

the only real difficult part is fitting the exhaust
keeping the car straight under hard acceleration because of the short wheel base is a bigger issue than than traction from what I've seen
there are a couple of LS1 Miata youtube videos at an autocross at Pungo airfeild here in VA, do a search for them
the car looks like alot of fun but it's a handfull

moezilla 07-01-2009 09:49 PM

who built your motor?
 

Originally Posted by Captain Fap'n (Post 5083305)
I've got a 1994 Miata R package 1.8l 400Hp fully built motor pistons,rods,bearings etc with Turbonetics T3 w/ .60 trim wheel, 6 speed manual from a 2004,rebuilt rear end, ECU flyin' miata program. Falken Azenis on 16" rims,brakes are from a 99 model with carbon tech brakes pads, bilstein suspension w/ coil overs. hard dog hardcore rollbar keeps it rigid with little no no body flex. and the powers being held by a flyin' miata clutch and flywheel. not to mention that I'm getting near 30mpg and even closer to 40mpg while running toluene. running a water to air intercooler and its keeping the car cool at 90 degrees Celsius.


now tell me why you would want to swap a perfectly good motor?

may I ask, who did the build? and what the cost might have been minus the Turbo? - I was in the process of investigation a K20 and tranny from an S2000 - - thank you!

stu-man64 07-03-2009 01:50 PM

13b-t =) or 20b n/a

somestone 07-06-2009 06:05 PM

stroke it!!!

somestone 07-06-2009 06:07 PM

Flyin' Miata : Engine/Drivetrain : Built engines : FM built stroker engine

check this out if you like to mess around with your engine, you cansave some money between your free labor, local machine shop and parts online

xdeadmeatx 07-07-2009 07:05 PM

Stick with something simple. Get an extra miata block, and just build it up in your free time.

-meaty

rotarykidd 07-08-2009 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by Jordan T (Post 3031380)
throw in a 13b

+1

zoommazdazoom 07-27-2009 12:18 PM

Just get a normal Bp 1.8 DOHC and Boost the living Shit out of that Motor they hold 20psi with a good TUNE

rotarykidd 07-30-2009 05:35 PM

^ done seent it in a festiva. fast!

PSI240SX 08-09-2009 06:12 AM

Ive got the LS1, and it has been by far and away the best car I have ever owned. DO IT, DO IT.

FullofFAIL 11-18-2009 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by zoommazdazoom (Post 6878205)
Just get a normal Bp 1.8 DOHC and Boost the living Shit out of that Motor they hold 20psi with a good TUNE

I'm getting my hands on a 90 Miata, I got a list of stuff I need for the BP 1.8l swap, from scott[pdexta] on FMR. I was just wondering if the 1.8l engine with bolt up with the trans thats on the 1.6l?

stu-man64 11-21-2009 01:18 PM

^google....

rotarykidd 11-23-2009 03:24 PM

put a six rotor in it.

stu-man64 11-24-2009 10:01 AM

24a!!! never seen one of those done...carbed...lol ftw!


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