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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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Lightbulb to fc or not too fc that is the question

alright now, everyone who luvs rotary and beets off to a 20b at night post on my thread. i need ur input bad and right now.

one of my"friends" is trying to sell me his fc and i wanna no if u think this is a good idea.

take into acount that i've only been in it a few times cuz i dont chill with this kid that much.

this car has/is:

87 fc non turbo with: 90k on the chasis

fd 13b turbo without the turbo's on it (runnin N/A and i didnt no this was possible) theres 23k on the engine

some watever conversion motor mounts

fc non turbo headers with stock exhaust except back pipes and the mufflers r after market

rebuilt fc non turbo tranny with an exedy 6 puck clutch

brand new (just put in a few days ago) a/c and heater

new springs

turbo exhaust manifolds that r off the car but r included

new gloss black paint job

no dents

3a racing bucket seats with 4 point harnesses

s-afc icluded

$3700 what do u think
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 11:53 AM
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1)What model is the car titled as,
get pics of his engine,I want to see if hes bullshitting you or what.

I wanted to put a 13B RE-Cosmos engine in a FC,its the sister engine to the 13BREW
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 12:49 PM
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If it is a jdm engine without a rebuild and only has 23k it's not worth it. Even though it's a 13b-re block it's still the same as an s5 block, probably has 140rwhp without turbos, just bolts up different and can hold more power. I can guarantee that if it is not ported, my stock port, stock turbo vert running 8psi would walk all over it. For $3700 you can usually get a nice turboII, For me, if it's not a 2000lb FB a non-turbo engine will just not be fast enough. My opinion is that his car is $700 too much, granted he probably spent $3000 putting that car together but nobody will ever get their money out of their modded FC. I'd offer him $3000 at the most (which I'm sure he'll feel offended.)
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by FC3Cturbo
If it is a jdm engine without a rebuild and only has 23k it's not worth it. Even though it's a 13b-re block it's still the same as an s5 block, probably has 140rwhp without turbos, just bolts up different and can hold more power. I can guarantee that if it is not ported, my stock port, stock turbo vert running 8psi would walk all over it. For $3700 you can usually get a nice turboII, For me, if it's not a 2000lb FB a non-turbo engine will just not be fast enough. My opinion is that his car is $700 too much, granted he probably spent $3000 putting that car together but nobody will ever get their money out of their modded FC. I'd offer him $3000 at the most (which I'm sure he'll feel offended.)

acuatally probably less than 140 hp, thats about how much a na makes with higher compression rotors.

i say run away as fast as you can and buy a real rx7 if you want one. dont buy somebodys elses headache. (from personal expereince)
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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tHIS SOUNDS LIKE JB'S CAR. I WENT TO MAZTECH LAST WEEK AND JEFF WAS TELLING ME ABOUT THAT CAR.

IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD DEAL. WHY ARE THE TURBOS OFF. DOES HE HAVE HIGH COMPRESSION ROTORS IN IT?

SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT: IF YOU HAVE A TURBO MOTOR WHY WOULD YOU TAKE OFF THE TURBOS? AND THEN TRY TO SELL THE CAR.

I AM NOT SURE ABOUT IT.

CHECK THE COMPRESSION AND ASK QUESTIONS IS THE BEST ADVICE I COULD GIVE YOU.
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Old Sep 29, 2005 | 08:39 PM
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He Probably Slapped On The Intake And Some Stuff Off The Third Gen. Huh Good Idea!! Lol
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Old Sep 30, 2005 | 05:39 AM
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ya this is jb's , i cant come up with the money by saturday and he said he has like 4 other buyers so watever plus jb bullshits alot
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Originally Posted by FC3Cturbo
If it is a jdm engine without a rebuild and only has 23k it's not worth it. Even though it's a 13b-re block it's still the same as an s5 block, probably has 140rwhp without turbos, just bolts up different and can hold more power. I can guarantee that if it is not ported, my stock port, stock turbo vert running 8psi would walk all over it. For $3700 you can usually get a nice turboII, For me, if it's not a 2000lb FB a non-turbo engine will just not be fast enough. My opinion is that his car is $700 too much, granted he probably spent $3000 putting that car together but nobody will ever get their money out of their modded FC. I'd offer him $3000 at the most (which I'm sure he'll feel offended.)
the 13b-re block is not even somewhat close to an s5 block, the 13b-re without turbos will make more then 140hp because of the much larger 4 port, and the exhaust ports not having the restrictors in the sleeves. a 13b-re motor would be just like having a decently street proted na 4 port 13b, which beats the hell out of a 6 port. the compression doesnt make much difference at all in rotaries, and the re has about the same compression as an s4 na. you cant put the fd intake on an s4 or s5 engine without a lot of modification. what i would do is buy the car and put a single turbo on it and put an apexi ecu or microtech in it.

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Old Sep 30, 2005 | 08:43 AM
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You can put the UIM from a re or rew on an s4 or s5 TII LIM with the right plate. Compression might not affect an n/a that much but when it comes to turbocharging a rotary, higher compression always yeilds wayyyy more power but ofcourse a hotter charge. And stock for stock, a 6port has bigger porting than a s4 or s5 4port. Don't forget RE's, and REW's are 32% slicker than s5 housings which ='s less friction,less heat. If you like being slow, that car would be perfect.
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Old Sep 30, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by FC3Cturbo
And stock for stock, a 6port has bigger porting than a s4 or s5 4port. Don't forget RE's, and REW's are 32% slicker than s5 housings which ='s less friction,less heat. If you like being slow, that car would be perfect.
I have to say bullshit,I have not seen any 6 port (manifold) side intake bigger than a 4 port,and yes the 13b re is bigger than that,then 20b is bigger than the 13b re/13bre cosmos

My friend had a 13bre,bridge port with carb set up,high compression rotors 6.6 or 6.8 best time,in the 1/8th
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