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Mar 30, 2010 | 12:47 PM

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I like your sense of humor....glad you were paying attention
those 1000 times...

The photos of my car show it to be 1/2 a license plate (3") lower than the stock one next to it and color doesn't matter.

and Michael, painting the roof black will not make a car into a convertable.....

If you buy name brand springs, I'm sure you will have no problems.
Keep us posted on what solution you come up with.-Bob

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Mar 30, 2010 | 01:36 PM

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If you buy name brand springs, I'm sure you will have no problems.

Was there sarcasm in that sentence?

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Mar 30, 2010 | 06:04 PM

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neuspeed race springs on both of these cars, not sure if the hatch had an engine at the time i dont think so

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Mar 30, 2010 | 06:56 PM

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Oh man I had a 96 sedan like that white one it had neuspeed race springs I liked it a lot Damn that was a long time ago.

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Hardtop s2000........ragtop civic wagon.......sounds good to me

Mar 30, 2010 | 07:14 PM

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When a person reads many postings on TR where people mention
dissatisfaction with non-name brand springs, most people conclude
that what I said is true.-Bob

and Derka, your car looks good.

Quote:Originally Posted by senor honda

If you buy name brand springs, I'm sure you will have no problems.

Was there sarcasm in that sentence?

Last edited by senor honda; Mar 30, 2010 at 07:51 PM. Reason: double sentence

Mar 30, 2010 | 07:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by senor honda

If you buy name brand springs, I'm sure you will have no problems.

Originally Posted by senor honda

If you buy name brand springs, I'm sure you will have no problems.

Was there sarcasm in that sentence?

I just put some no name adjustables on my ef and I have to say it rides great but I also replaced almost everything else on the suspension. I guess I'm trying to say its not just springs that make a car ride like crap.

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Mar 30, 2010 | 07:49 PM

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We both agree on that....

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Originally Posted by flatrex

......................... its not just springs that make a car ride like crap.

One of the reasons that I work with stock springs for the street is that they were engineered to carry the weight of the car. At meets, I see a lot of things that are detrimental to the car's ride and handling, but I don't have to change anyone's mind.-Bob

Mar 31, 2010 | 03:05 AM

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We both agree on that....

One of the reasons that I work with stock springs for the street is that they were engineered to carry the weight of the car. At meets, I see a lot of things that are detrimental to the car's ride and handling, but I don't have to change anyone's mind.-Bob

But if you modify the stock springs wouldn't they no longer be engineered for the cars weight?

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Apr 1, 2010 | 09:50 AM

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After careful measuring of a suspension, I modify stock springs,
but they are still correct for the cars weight.-Bob

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But if you modify the stock springs wouldn't they no longer be engineered for the cars weight?

An indirect answer....Further info....one of the articles on my shop forum....

If I were driving on a banked track or one where the car becomes airborn, I would calculate what the car weighs sitting still, and what I believe it will weigh on the banking and/or landing, and that would tell me the spring rate I would need to keep the car from bottoming out. That is why I asked about car weight and stock spring rates.

I asked about the forces that will be trying to push the car into bottoming-out mode for the same reason.

As for a street driven car, I would go with spring rates close to stock since they were engineered/designed to support the weight of a stock car. and i would use heavier/stiffer shocks to damp out the road bumps and depressions to keep the tires pushed down onto the road, regardless of the minor ups and downs of the car's body while being driven on the street.

I believe springs that are too hard, cause a car to lose grip in a turn, since I believe hard springs don't allow the tires to follow the road contours as closely.

Since I cannot figure the forces that a person will encounter on the street in EACH turn, or even the radius of EACH turn encountered on the street, It's pretty hard to say for the street, exactly what springs, other than stock, that a person should use.....especially in flat Florida, where the steepest bank is the X-way entrance/exit.

I suspect that life being full of compromises, most people have what they "think" they need instead of what they really need. They are also limited by how much they want to spend, and they don't keep buying springs until they get the "feel" that they want.

With a race car, a person has several sets of springs and tunes for each track which they run on......going harder or softer.....the advantages are:

1.Race turns and radiuses won't change for a given track, so they can be measured. The street is a multitude of compromises and variables and most people won't keep buying springs until they get it right for their type of driving.

2.Driver preference and driving style remain constant/flat out on a race track but on the street, a person is not always driving at the limit of his ability.-Bob