block/main girdle or no?
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block/main girdle or no?
so i have decided to get the parts to build my motor, but now i have another dilemma...
this is going to be a daily driven ls with rods, pistons with crower springs/retainers(getting cams when i go turbo) and either hondata or a chipped p28 from mr. mtber. for now im just going to bump the rev limit to 7.5k as the stock cams suck over that rpm, but once i get the turbo and add cams, it will see 7.5-8.5k at the track. should i add a block girdle?
honda-tech seems to be split 50/50 on this in every thread i have seen. some people say that have run an ls bottom end with no girdle to 9k with no problems, others say they wouldnt run over 7.5 without one.
i know someone that had a built ls(crower rods, je pistons, stock block) with a girdle and it was run to 8.5-9k and never had any problems, but i dont know anyone personally that has had a built ls without a girdle running that high for comparison.
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this is going to be a daily driven ls with rods, pistons with crower springs/retainers(getting cams when i go turbo) and either hondata or a chipped p28 from mr. mtber. for now im just going to bump the rev limit to 7.5k as the stock cams suck over that rpm, but once i get the turbo and add cams, it will see 7.5-8.5k at the track. should i add a block girdle?
honda-tech seems to be split 50/50 on this in every thread i have seen. some people say that have run an ls bottom end with no girdle to 9k with no problems, others say they wouldnt run over 7.5 without one.
i know someone that had a built ls(crower rods, je pistons, stock block) with a girdle and it was run to 8.5-9k and never had any problems, but i dont know anyone personally that has had a built ls without a girdle running that high for comparison.
thanks in advance!
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not needed. the whole ls not meant to rev that high is mostly when doing ls/vtec, then its a good idea to get rods/pistons and shit.(which you said you'd have anyway)
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Originally Posted by 95gainfla
not needed. the whole ls not meant to rev that high is mostly when doing ls/vtec, then its a good idea to get rods/pistons and shit.(which you said you'd have anyway)
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I think if thre not needed Honda could have saved alot of $$$ on 94-01 GSRs reving to 8200.
I would run one for sure, it helps stablize the crank shaft and helps even bearing wear.
I would run one for sure, it helps stablize the crank shaft and helps even bearing wear.
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sweet. thanks for the input guys. i think im going to leave it off this block. im going to eventually build a sleeved 2.0l block and i might add one at that point. it just seems like a lot of money to get one installed and im way late on getting this turbo setup going. the money will be spent on a fuel rail, fpr and injectors.
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Originally Posted by MrLHT
I think if thre not needed Honda could have saved alot of $$$ on 94-01 GSRs reving to 8200.
I would run one for sure, it helps stablize the crank shaft and helps even bearing wear.
I would run one for sure, it helps stablize the crank shaft and helps even bearing wear.
((not needed. the whole ls not meant to rev that high is mostly when doing ls/vtec, then its a good idea to get rods/pistons and shit.(which you said you'd have anyway)))))
as for that the not reving a ls that high is not do to haveing a lsvtec,it is do to the ls crank is not as balanced as vtec/and is heavier,and couple more reasons.
and if you do go with one THESE are great i used 3 so far and damn well made i love Az http://azracemachine.com/products/Bl...GirdleMenu.htm
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