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Old May 22, 2005 | 04:48 AM
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But isnt the H22 heavier and wouldnt be that good in the corners rather than the k20 ?
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Old May 22, 2005 | 05:11 AM
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the h22 may be a little heavier but it's still an import engine so it won't be much. and for cornering it's not all about being heavy, otherwise old ass 69' chargers would be good at it. cornering is about weight distribution, traction, and how good the driver is.

For cornering you'd be better off with an equal balance of weight over the front and rear tires, so the lighter engine would be better as the ass end of the car doesn't have much to it. also a battery relocation is a minimal but popular mod. then you get into the suspension, tie bars, thicker sway bars, shocks, springs, bushings. when the equipment is upgraded then the driver needs an upgade as well.

you have to know about contact patches on the tires, which ones are used in which cornering, etc. but that is alot to worry about when its on the street as a daily driver.

for the daily driver I tell you what I did to my 88 crx, b16 swap, front and rear upper strut bars, rear lower strut bar, stock sway bar, tokico shocks, eibach springs, battery relocate to the rear, tires 205/40 16, turbo running 10psi. I did some other stuff too but it was audio and alarm shit.

the result was 0 body roll in the corners. I could take a normal corner at a traffic light at like 35mph-40mph without hearing the wheels squeel and did I mention 0 body roll. the on ramps for the highway-----70mph +++ with no tire squeel. also if you know the brandon/riverview area there is a section of falkenburg that if you take it all the way untill it goes south of bloomingdale, just before ipolito elementry, the road gets a little twisty and I took that at 70mph with no body roll. all this and more from a car that ran 240hp+ at about 2200lbs with a b16 motor. not bad for a daily driver

you don't need the biggest beast to get what you want, remember since your not looking to be the fastest drag car at the track, just quick on the street, any honda b-series or k-series with aftermarket support will get you wher you want. the cornering on the street is 50% equipment and 50% driver.
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Old May 22, 2005 | 05:16 AM
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good point, and just to agree- the weight difference is minimal... something like 40 lbs- take a good shit, and there goes most of it.

the main benefit to all of this is, you can get d series mounts pretty cheap from jdmshit.com, and have 220 off the bat, which should be plenty for your purposes. with a little work, they take just fine to low pressure boost, and if built/sleeved, they can handle quite a bit. or, you can always throw in some higher compression pistons, and build the head for more power. check out www.hmotorsonline.com for a motor, and specs/information.
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Old May 22, 2005 | 10:10 AM
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if your going to go with the K-series route, skip the K20A and get the K20z1(the 05 rsx-s motor), with 10 extra hp it would be a better platform, good luck finding one though.There is no tuning for it yet but, Hondata is releasing Kpro for it at the end of the month.
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Old May 22, 2005 | 04:01 PM
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no doubt the h22 would be cheaper than the k-series and if low boost is a goal then hell yeah, but I have one more monkey wrench to throw, if it is a daily driver then fuel economy might be an issue?????? with the above setup on my crx I still got 26-28mpg in the city ( with my foot in it) and 35+ on the highway. I don't know what the h22 numbers are but if it's close ( which it should be being a honda) then the extra 60hp from the start would be worth the extra cost that an h would run, compared to a b.
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Old May 22, 2005 | 04:53 PM
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Thanks alot for the input guys ..
If I'm reading correctly, I'd be best off leaning 'tward an h22 swap and then stiffening up the chassis, tires, and maybe a turbo ..
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Old May 23, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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that's about it.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 12:41 PM
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Awesome .. I got 1 more question .. I want my trunk to look like this


Anyone know anyone that can do something like this?
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Old May 23, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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actually you can do it, you can get fiberglass kits, and you use cloth to get the smooth contours around the speakers. check out the haynes extreem books in autozone or borders books and music. there are step by step instructions, it's fairly simple.

one more point I forgot to mention, the h22 engine with just minimal boost, about 8psi, ( for which I would reccommend a supercharger) would give you roughly 330hp at the crank. so 290-310whp on a 01 civic would be a fairly sweet daily driver.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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Is there an AWD conversion for my car .. I heard about it from a friend and it may interest me in the future but I don't know how well that will work on my car ..
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