Real Tech: 3rd gear grind pictures
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Originally Posted by NAPIER
I see alot of people here post that their tranny is grinding here and they think it is the just the synchro's. I just wanted to show what is actually doing it and what should be replaced when fixing it the right way. This is not a how to fix a grind this is just showing you what is causing the grind.
First off this is what a syncro looks like and it should be replaced when fixing a grind.

This is what a gear looks like notice the little dog teeth on the gear if they are rounded off and not pointed the gear will need to be replaced.

another shot of the gear

This is one of the main parts causing your tranny to grind this is a synchro sleeve. Notice in this picture how the teeth inside the sleeve are eaten away and not pointed at all this was causing a major 3rd gear grind in a integra ls trannsmision.

This is the synchro hub which fits inside the synchro sleeve. This is the same one that came outta that integra ls tranny that was grinding 3rd notice how its scared up pretty bad.
This is how the synchro hub fits inside of the synchro sleeve. When installing a synchro hub inside a synchro sleeve their will be 3 sets of longer teeth on the sleeve and 3 sets of deeper grooves in the hub u must align it so the longer teeth go in the deeper grooves. Also when buying a synchro sleeve and hub you will usually only be allowed to buy the whole synchro sleeve kit which will include the synchro hub,sycnhro sleeve, and the 2 synchros that go with it.

I hope this was an informative thread if you have any additional info please post.
thanks chris
First off this is what a syncro looks like and it should be replaced when fixing a grind.

This is what a gear looks like notice the little dog teeth on the gear if they are rounded off and not pointed the gear will need to be replaced.

another shot of the gear

This is one of the main parts causing your tranny to grind this is a synchro sleeve. Notice in this picture how the teeth inside the sleeve are eaten away and not pointed at all this was causing a major 3rd gear grind in a integra ls trannsmision.

This is the synchro hub which fits inside the synchro sleeve. This is the same one that came outta that integra ls tranny that was grinding 3rd notice how its scared up pretty bad.
This is how the synchro hub fits inside of the synchro sleeve. When installing a synchro hub inside a synchro sleeve their will be 3 sets of longer teeth on the sleeve and 3 sets of deeper grooves in the hub u must align it so the longer teeth go in the deeper grooves. Also when buying a synchro sleeve and hub you will usually only be allowed to buy the whole synchro sleeve kit which will include the synchro hub,sycnhro sleeve, and the 2 synchros that go with it.

I hope this was an informative thread if you have any additional info please post.
thanks chris
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are they not showing up or you just don't like them?
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They're all blury. This was more of a show-n-tell post then a tech post really. It doesnt say HOW one would replace them, what you take apart on the tranny, or what the insides of the tranny look like. but still.... at least you tried.
man i have a headache from the pics.
it was like one of those pictures in the mall where you see something inside the picture if you go in and out of focus, man my head!. JFWY, good initiative, bad pics.
i learned enough about trannies to know to let 60-1ek work on them and not me!
it was like one of those pictures in the mall where you see something inside the picture if you go in and out of focus, man my head!. JFWY, good initiative, bad pics.
i learned enough about trannies to know to let 60-1ek work on them and not me!
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Originally Posted by Cronic
at least you tried.
the pics don't look that bad to me

As you all know...my 3rd gear is on its way out. so I was searching on h-t and found this thread that shows what needs to be replaced. i figured if it was edumacational for me then it might benefit someone else to know what's going on in there as well.
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The best engine in the world is the vagina, it takes any size piston, its self lubricating, starts with 1 finger, and every 4 weeks does its own oil change. It's just a pity the management system is so fucking temperamental.
more like 'real info'.
i'll try to help make it 'real tech'.
your synchro teeth should look like V. if they look like U, thats bad. replace them.
is it difficult to do? not really. it comes down to:
1. do i have lots of time?
you might fuck up something and then be waiting for parts that are on backorder and before you know it, it's been two months.
2. can i do this myself?
if you go to the dealer for oil changes, fuck no you can't do it. if you can do a clutch job and adjust your own valves, then yes, you can.
i'll try to help make it 'real tech'.
your synchro teeth should look like V. if they look like U, thats bad. replace them.
is it difficult to do? not really. it comes down to:
1. do i have lots of time?
you might fuck up something and then be waiting for parts that are on backorder and before you know it, it's been two months.
2. can i do this myself?
if you go to the dealer for oil changes, fuck no you can't do it. if you can do a clutch job and adjust your own valves, then yes, you can.
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