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Old Jan 22, 2004 | 03:09 PM
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When you buy hondata, it comes with the unit itself and a blank chip. By purchasing s200, you can then add more features, not offered with s100. Unless you purchase the rom editor and a programmer of some kind, the hondata will be useless, until you either get a base map or get your vehicle tuned.

To answer your other question about the power your setup is capable of making, you left out a major piece of information needed to answer your question. . . What size turbo are you running? The physical pressure (psi) is irrelevant when you are talking about a specific setup, it's just a number. Any particular setup is limited by power output (hp/tq). Be that by the size of the turbo you are running or the amount of power that the specific engine can "safely" handle.

400+ hp on a stock engine is not impossible by any means, it has been done before, and probably will be done many times again. It's the turbo making all the power anyway. It's just a question of how long the engine will last, withstanding the increased cylinder pressure.

Hope that helps. You can PM me if you have any questions.
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Old Jan 22, 2004 | 04:00 PM
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i understand completely what youre saying about larger injectors affecting idle and throttle response but both u and i know that that does not become a noticeable issue until u start getting close to 1000cc's or so.

as far as a stock gsr at 8525rpm being at 100% duty cycle, i may not be the best to argue with in this area but last time i checked a stock gsr computer wont even rev that high. and if a stock gsr only does ~145whp and is maxing out the stock injectors how are most people getting 185-190whp with the same factory injectors?(dont say more fuel pressure)
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Old Jan 22, 2004 | 04:39 PM
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I'm not trying to argue or prove that I know more than anyone else on here, and I am not trying to sway anyone from buying larger injectors saying that it will negatively affect driveability. All I am saying is that a vehicle with larger injectors, is not going to drive like a stock vehicle. Tuning is the most important part of any setup, so with proper tuning there will be few adverse affects of these new components, but some things cannot be tuned out.

And for the injectors, I'm not sure of the exact rev limit of a factory gsr, but at 8k rpm, a gsr with stock injectors, is at ~100%duty. For the vehicles using stock injectors making upwards of 190whp, the answer is obvious, these injectors are running over 100% duty. This is merely a recommended load that a particular injector is presumed to be able to withstand. It does not mean that they will definately fail if they are over worked. It just means that it is more likely, and would be safer to be used within those values. (fuel pressure is irrelevant, so I won't say that)
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Old Jan 22, 2004 | 06:26 PM
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ok i have a td04e-t3, built by evergreen turbo, although i'm not sure about the intercooler that i i have, demensions with endtanks are 33"l 5.5"h 2.7"w, hope that can give you some more help on what i can do with the car, it also has full valvtrain and retainers, and ferrara ss valves,

and for the duty cycle of stock injectors on a honda when it reaches the rev limit they are opperating at 100% duty cycle, i found this out on hondata.com somewhere along in there it talks about duty cycle.
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Old Jan 22, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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Old Jan 24, 2004 | 07:09 PM
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Originally posted by hybridlsvtec
alrighty then, also i have another problem, i have stuck two pumps in my car (del sol) both are 255 walbros and my fuel pressure will not come down off of 80 psi, have tried adjustable regs, and some stock ones, any kind of suggestions there, should i get rid of the intake pump and go for a aftermarket inline pump or what. i don't know need information badly........
Check out this page for info on modifying a fuel pressure regulator.
http://theoldone.com/articles/regulator/
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Old Jan 26, 2004 | 01:57 PM
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i've already did that it dropped it 10 psi. i just don't really think that its really good to run 70 or 80 psi of fule pressure at an idle. and i don't want to go to the dyno and then they say that i've got to put a pump in it and then bring it back. thats really goin to suck balls. so i don't know if i should take the imtank pump out and put a inline in or what, not sure still need help on that one. thanks..
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Old Jan 26, 2004 | 01:59 PM
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Running a 255lph intank fuel pump and no inline pump is more than sufficient.
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 01:05 PM
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k, oh and which is more preferable, skunk2 manifold, or jg manifold, for street setup.
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 01:08 PM
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skunk2 for under 350whp. better mid range compared to the jg
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