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Old Dec 10, 2003 | 08:34 PM
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Originally posted by 94DOHCDELSOL
Well, as much as I enjoyed reading the post, and hearing the bickering going back and forth about how a turbo could be built for $600, I am the type of person that likes to do things right, even if it costs a little more money...so I know I can't get a good turbo set up for $1k
If I had $1000 budget, my kit would be alot nicer. I guess if you arent mentally capable or just scared, you will pay rapage prices if thats what you want?
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 02:17 AM
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Mekkis, just curious, who are you??? And, do you have anything to prove that you made that manifold pictured on the last page because as I have been shopping for manifolds I swear I have seen that picture somewhere....
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 04:43 AM
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My name is Joseph Davis, I'm an all around asshat, postwhore, and loudmouth. You may or may not recognize my name if you frequent HT's FI forum, PGMFI.org, ECIMULTI.org, engine management forum mod on homemadeturbo.com, or any of a number of various DIY mailing lists.

I am a long time advocate of self improvement, knowledge, and doing it your own damn self. I prefer using OEM parts as they possess the one thing the aftermarket is completely devoid of - OEM quality.

A good case in point is Hyundaidata vs AEM's EMS. (Ideally) Both are computers and do as they are programmed... AEM has a few more input/outputs to do interesting things with, BUT. Hyundaidata is the Honda ECU, 97% of the code is OEM Honda code. The hardware is bulletproof and the code is proven. EMS shits the bed on a regular basis, it's getting better all the time but it's never going to be OEM quality. Honda would never do their hardware beta testing on the general public, yet people jock AEM for their product solely because of the pricetag, and think EMS>Honda.

Here's a picture of my kid holding my boost controller. It's an OEM Saab piece, modified by yours truly for various boost levels, scramble boost, and I have plans for an add-on board for traction control. Most likely PIC based, monitoring ABS wheelspeed sensor inputs.


FYI, I'm 28 so I'm a few years older than the average Honduh enthusiast. It's given me time to do all sorts of amusing things. I have a couple two year degrees - automotive, CNC machining - and a half dozen unfinished 2 and 4 year degrees - EE, chemistry, programming, networking, and yes welding. Over 9 years of post-secondary waste of time; I'll never get a degree or a real job as I'm too consumed by my hobbies.
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 02:49 PM
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ok well the pic didnt show and i still must ask do u have proof that you made that manifold because that picture looks extremely familiar....
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 03:37 PM
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Full-race makes a manifold that looks like just like, you are probably thinking of them.

Heres a manifold i made (notice gay mig welds, heh).










I didnt make the log-ish style manifold, I bought the parts tho and had someone else weld it And thats a pic of my intercooler being welded together, its 2 saab smic's being welded together
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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 04:45 PM
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Very nice. The thing your daughter has says APC on it. Nice manifolds man!

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Old Dec 11, 2003 | 10:09 PM
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I don't have to defend the manifold to anyone. There are three distinctive traits about it to the discerning eye. Firstly, the welds are not perfect, if you look at Full-Race or Lovefab fare - guys who weld for a living as opposed to a hobby - you'll see a difference. Especially around the collector, where you turn up the gas pressure, extend your tungsten, and pray for a steady hand. Second, I have no external wastegate flange plumbed - I run internal wastegates because as previously stated I am a Zero-bling motherfucker. Thirdly, the collector is an inch shorter than Full-Race hypes as ideal, for clearance reasons. You don't go fitting Holsets into B-swapped ED chassis with impunity.

As far as APC... lol, yes. "Automatic Performance Control," it has to be modified for linear (instead of taper) boost control, but it is Saab's method of determining boost level based on engine knock. It's best described as the J&S Safeguard of boost control.
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Old Dec 12, 2003 | 01:09 AM
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Nice manifold mad props for that.... have you ever tested them to see what kind of results you get??? Id like to get my hands on one to do some dyno testing with it... if you are interested please shoot me a PM.... youve got a good product there for just bein a hobby.... touch up some welds and you'd be good to go....
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