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Old 12-05-2003, 02:05 PM
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Originally posted by Dabwuigwe
are you talking stock cams or just the LS in general?
Do stock LS cams make peak tq at 8000+ rpm?
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Between the superior engine components and geometry, and properly built (and with an adequate valvetrain), I can see this engine spinning to 12K RPM all day without a hitch. There aren't cams out there that could use 12K, but I'll bet you could.
Go here for cams that rev to 12K. Cheaper than the Toda/JUN crap, and they make more power. Brad can get you breaking 200+ whp (what is your budget, anyway?) off of 1.8 liters in street trim.



By now, everyone is pretty familiar with my favorite saying: If it was all that great, Honda would have done it in the first place.
I dunno, Honduh fucks things up left and right in my mind. If they had bothered to make a single OBD2 compliant car before the RSX-S, you wouldn't see OBD conversion harnesses for chipped ECUs as the stock ECU would be flashable via CANbus. Don't even get me started on D-series transmissions, PCV placement, or whatever my current gripe is.

Oh, yeah, NA small displacement "performance" is a complete waste of time. Sorry to be a hater, I've just seen a lot more power and a lot more reliablility for a lot less money from well applied boost.
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Sounds like you may want to look into another platform.
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What would you recommend?
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Uh. . . I am happy with my Honda, i am also going to pick up another S13 when i get some money. Toyota is awesome if you have the money. If you want brute power then Gm would be my choice.
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Nissan's alright, I don't click with Toys although I don't have anything against them, GM needs to die. They introduce the first decent F-body in 20 years and then go and discontinue them - that sums GM up pretty well.

I'm leaning towards Ford. SBF/fox chassis is cheap, robust, and should be good for 10's in daily driven form, most likely in a Granada/Fairmont station wagon because I'm a sick fuck like that. I have a yearning towards an early 80's Escort done in euro CVH turbo style. If I go with a newer car, probably a Fuckus... but I can't quite get past how ugly they are.

I do the Honda thing because I've owned and modified them since the mid 90's. I have multiple engines and transmissions laying around in assorted condition, all sorts of wierd parts, etc. They are just easy and cheap for me at this point.
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Got a GSR bottom end laying around anywhere?
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I have a couple LS bottoms, but I don't live in FL... I have a friend who does. which is why I'm whoring this place out.
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Originally posted by VeRTigO
Do stock LS cams make peak tq at 8000+ rpm?


My bad read too fast.. you have to be patient with me i'm still new to this.. I understand what youre saying now... but does this alone mean the LS non-vtech has no true potential?
Keep in mind i don't want a full out race car.. this is my everyday ride..
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Originally posted by Dabwuigwe
My bad read too fast.. you have to be patient with me i'm still new to this.. I understand what youre saying now... but does this alone mean the LS non-vtech has no true potential?
Keep in mind i don't want a full out race car.. this is my everyday ride..
ls non-vtech has tons of potential.. to connect your calls to virtually anywhere in the world.




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